Joyce, are you refering to the Renzetti Traveler? All three of mine came with the clamp and the pedastal. You'll need a better pedastal than the one provided imho though. I fail to see why any of these companies put out a flimsy pedastal anymore. HMH is about the only one which doesn't and maybe some of the Dynaking models. Guess it does make for a whole other business though, selling replacements. lol, mark

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Subject: Re: [VFB] Vise dilemma
Date: Mon, 13 Dec 2004 20:53:55 -0700

The Traveler is a clamp on vise and the head is not as stable as I'd like. But, others may find that this is not a problem for them. Joyce




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