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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Chuck Alexander

Subject: Re: [VFB] Casting heavy flies

 

Jerry: Heavy as in clousers, or bigger sized wooly buggers that have 30
wraps of lead or so. I am using a 5wt slow action rod, and 6wt weight
forward line..But I have a 9  ft 6 wt rod that is fast action that I am
gonna try them on. Just that that old rod I have had since the 70's I think.
It is fiberglass and weighs a ton compared to my new rod, Chuck

 

 

Chuck,

 

Several comments.  My definition of a good cast is one that results in a
hook up.

Secondly, I am not a purest.  In fact, I might be the least pure guy on the
list. :-)

 

With weighted flies I use a fast action rod with either intermediate or
sinking shooting heads or I over line

by one weight and use short sink tip lines.

 

With a weighted fly as you describe, your fly is ending up deep or on the
bottom,

so I let the line help in the casting of the fly and with getting it down.
I am not saying I never use a floating line with a clouser,

but again it would be with a line weighted one up from the rod and with a
short head.

 

My typical set up is a 7 wt with an 8 wt 28-30' shooting head or an 8wt with
a 225 or 250 grain

Teeny type line.  Rods are 9' and FAST.     I also use heads made  of TC-14
in various lengths.  Some as short as 15-20 ft.

With some of my set ups, I will actually use heads that are two sizes up.
7wt with 9wt head, 8 wt with 10wt head.

 

In Florida, in addition to the weighted fly, I am almost always in the wind.
So an open lob cast

 is out of the question.  I have worn more than my share of Flies.  But if I
keep the loop tight and only false cast

once, I am pretty safe and can cast pretty far.  I typically use the water
haul technique.

 

>From Dan Blanton's website:

WATER HAULING 

Shooting heads can be aerialized during false-casting until the presentation
is made, just like any standard, full-length line. However, a much easier
and more efficient method of false-casting, called "Water-hauling" is often
a preferred technique. Here is how it's done. 

Instead of making an aerial forward cast, you lay the line out on the
surface (the only time you purposely create a wide, open loop), immediately
lifting it back off and making a normal, tight-looped backcast. The tension
of the water against the line helps keep the line straight, curl-free, and
loads the rod better, resulting in a better backcast by increasing line
speed (a good backcast is the key to making long tosses). You extend
over-hang on the first lay-down (laying the line back down on the surface
again), one backcast is made (another water-haul), and the line is shot on
the first foreword cast. If you are not pleased with the timing, lay the
line down again, and give it another go. This is by far, the safest way to
cast a head in a tight lineup or in a boat, when the cast will course
through the boat. 

Water-hauling eliminates the need for energy-expending and time-wasting,
aerial false-casting! 

Like most casts, it is much more difficult to describe than to actually make
the cast.  

 

The other thing I do that is not typical is that I whip finish my heads to
the running line-- No loops.  It of course means carrying 

extra interchangeable spools, but with this technique, if it gets really
windy and the wind is either in my face or over the wrong shoulder, I can
strip the head on to the rod, and set up my cast with a really short line.
With no loops, the head never gets caught up in the guides.

 

hope this helps.

 

jg 

 

 

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