We found this out after the fly was called the Chili Pepper. The original was tied as a joke till it started producing. I had the only one that was tied. The original tyer then started tying them for the shops but it had no name. It was referred the Copper Bugger. One of our club members called it that Hot Fly from there it was called a hot pepper then it became The Chili Pepper. The name stuck. We later found out there were three other flies called Chili Pepper. It was not originally tied with a bead. It had a Fire Orange thread head. I tied them with a bead and the Copper chenille when the original Chenille was not available anymore. Tony --- J Paulson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> There is a bonefish fly that has been around for a > long time called the > Chili Pepper. It has many of the same colors of the > woollybugger Chili. I > agree with "Cranky Paul" that you should try and > find if the name has been > used, but frankly, it's an almost impossible task. > As someone who develops > flies, it's also a very dicey line where a pattern > becomes "new" as well. > Recently, I thought I had developed something new > enough, then after the fly > company accepted it and added it to their catalog, I > found almost the exact > pattern in a book. I told them I thought they should > still sell it, but I > wouldn't take any royalties for that pattern. I > think we're very lucky > lawyers haven't been involved much in fly > patterns... > > Jay Paulson > Redmond, WA > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Paul Marriner" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Monday, May 07, 2007 2:36 PM > Subject: Re: [VFB] Fly pattern > > > > Hey DonO, > > > > I know it's a sign of advancing age and an overly > sensitive skin about > > minutiae. The pattern you refer to is at least 30 > years "younger" than > > the original I quoted. I get really p...ed off > when some turkey doesn't > > have the decency to check the literature before > naming a fly. > > Can you imagine if I threw together some materials > and suddenly > > advertised it on the web and wrote about it in > books as the Chile > > Pepper. Yes, it's only a fly, but a little respect > for the originators > > of patterns is justified. I guess we just have to > start copyrighting > > pattern names. > > > > Cranky Paul > > > > DonO wrote: > >> > >> Paul, > >> > >> I found that one too, when I was searching to the > fly I was told about. > >> Looks like we have two flies with the same name. > Maybe it don't count if > >> one is a Canadian name and the other has a USA > name, eh? > >> > >> DonO > >> > >> ----- Original Message ----- > >> From: "Paul Marriner" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >> To: <[email protected]> > >> Sent: Monday, May 07, 2007 12:28 PM > >> Subject: Re: [VFB] Fly pattern > >> > >> > Check it out fellows, the Orange Blossom > Special is a northern New > >> > Brunswick Atlantic salmon fly. It was created > (and is still tied) by > >> > Ralph Billingsley. Your can find the pattern > tied by the originator on > >> > page 37 of A Compendium of Canadian Fly > Patterns. > >> > > >> > cheers > >> > Paul > >> > www.galesendpress.com > >> > > >> > Charlie Bonner wrote: > >> > > > >> > > DonO, > >> > > > >> > > We fished the North Park Region several > times over the past 10 > >> > > years > >> and > >> > > that has been one of our best flies for brown > trout when the water > >> > > was > >> > > murkey and even worked pretty well in cleaner > water. The guys at > >> > > North > >> Park > >> > > Angler introduced me to that fly years ago. I > recommend it to anyone > >> fishing > >> > > in that part of Co and Wy. I even tried it > here in Arkansas and it > >> worked > >> > > quite well. I think it looked like a little > brown trout. Its a great > >> > > streamer patter. > >> > > > >> > > CRB > >> > > > >> > > >From: "Chuck Alexander" > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >> > > >Reply-To: <[email protected]> > >> > > >To: <[email protected]> > >> > > >Subject: Re: [VFB] Fly pattern > >> > > >Date: Mon, 7 May 2007 11:31:07 -0500 > >> > > > > >> > > >I bet in a size 10 or 12 you could murder > bluegills with that fly, > >> Chuck > >> > > > > >> > > >----- Original Message ----- From: "DonO" > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >> > > >To: <[email protected]> > >> > > >Sent: Monday, May 07, 2007 11:14 AM > >> > > >Subject: [VFB] Fly pattern > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > >>I was talking to a Wyoming Game & Fish > biologist this morning about > >> this > >> > > >>weekend's fishing, considering the snow and > run-off. We got to > >> talking > >> > > >>flies and I asked him about the > Chili-pepper. He hadn't heard of > >> > > >>it, > >> but > >> > > >>his special go-to fly is similar, and it's > called the > >> > > >>Orange-blossom > >> > > >>Special. > >> > > >> > >> > > >>Tough I'd tie up some to compliment my > peppers and give it a go, > >> > > >>too. > >> > > >> > >> > > > >>http://www.riverbum.com/Salmon-&-Steelhead/Orange-Blossom-Special/ > >> > > >> > >> > > >>I'd be interested to hear how it works from > others. He got it from > >> > > >>a > >> > > >>friend > >> > > >>from W. Virginia who does a lot of > smallmouth fishing. Said it was > >> his > >> > > >>killer pattern, and it worked on Wyoming > trout, too. > >> > > >> > >> > > >>DonO > >> > > >> > >> > > >> > >> > > > > >> > > > >> > > > _________________________________________________________________ > >> > > Get a FREE Web site, company branded e-mail > and more from Microsoft > >> Office > >> > > Live! > http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/mcrssaub0050001411mrt/direct/01/ > >> > > >> > -- > >> > Paul Marriner > >> > Outdoor Writing & Photography. Owner: Gale's > End Press. Member: OWAA & > >> > OWC. Author of: A Compendium of Canadian Fly > Patterns (co-author), > >> > Stillwater Fly Fishing: Tools & Tactics, How to > Choose & Use Fly-tying > >> > Thread, Modern Atlantic Salmon Flies, Miramichi > River Journal, Ausable > >> > River Journal, and Atlantic Salmon. > >> > > >> > > >> > -- > >> > No virus found in this incoming message. > >> > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > >> > Version: 7.5.467 / Virus Database: 269.6.5/792 > - Release Date: 5/6/2007 > >> 9:01 PM > >> > > >> > > > > > -- > > Paul Marriner > > Outdoor Writing & Photography. Owner: Gale's End > Press. Member: OWAA & > === message truncated === __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
