Folks: I'm in one of the Midge size 18 or smaller swaps... Well, I don't know 
how in the world I'm gonna tie those..See, I have been tying my flies I fish 
with on size 8-12... But, I just started my Bi-color flies for Rick's swap 
using size 14's... and I can barely see those.. So that led me to the question. 
How in the WORLD am I gonna tie the 18's ??? LOL.. I usually use size 6/0 
thread... and I use 3/0 if I'm gonna use thread to build up a thread body.. But 
I ordered some 8/0 thread the other day for the size 18 midges/small drys.. 
Will the 8/0 instead of 6/0 help Me much???? Oh, and Tony..I don't know if you 
remember it or not, but last year I said I did NOT like Gudebrod thread?? Well, 
black is about my most used color of thread, and i had run out except for a 
spool of Gudebrod about the time i made that statement. and now, I like it 
better than any other brand of thread...I don't know if it just grew on Me, or 
if it's just what one gets used too, but I can now TRY to use other brands, but 
it just ain't the same. i hope they never stop making it...So, that is Gudebrod 
size 8/0 that I ordered.. Will it be small enough to tie the size 18's good??? 
I know we had had discussions about threads and how one brands 8/0 might be the 
same as another brands 6/0, or 12/0, and that the only real way (I think it 
was) to compare apples to apples was to go by denier weight??? But threads like 
Gudebrod don't tell ya the denier weight for it's sizes, so how do you know 
outside of ordering some and finding out that way?? to the ppl who are tying 
flies that will be smaller than 18, my hat's off to ya, cause I'm trying to tie 
these 18's with my 3.50 power reading glasses and can hardly see the hook 
hahaha... Course, I need to put myself up a white or maybe light pastel 
background to tie against I guess it  would help some.I tied one size 28 last 
year, but I think that might be a first and  last for me LOL..Thanks, Chuck

Oh, one last thing.. If one goes by denier weight to see how thick a thread is, 
if it is a waxed thread vs non waxed, wouldn't that throw the denier thing a 
curve??? Because of the weight of the wax??

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