Chuck,
Sorry to say, Gudebrod has quit making tying thread
for the general market. There is a possibility they
are still making the 10/0 and 8/0 for Orvis under the
Orvis name. I had gone totally to 10/0 even for my
larger flies. At times I would use 8/0 but it felt
like rope to me. I dumped all my 3/0 and about all of
my 6/0.
I still have some 10/0 that I get stingy with but if
you will let me know what color you need for the swap
flies, I will see if I have a spool I can spare and
send it to you as long as it is black.
The 10/0 is finer than the 12/0 by another company.
Chris Helm did a study on threads, it is somewhere on
the Internet, it will give you all the information you
want of the different threads.
Tony
--- Chuck Alexander
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Folks: I'm in one of the Midge size 18 or smaller
> swaps... Well, I don't know how in the world I'm
> gonna tie those..See, I have been tying my flies I
> fish with on size 8-12... But, I just started my
> Bi-color flies for Rick's swap using size 14's...
> and I can barely see those.. So that led me to the
> question. How in the WORLD am I gonna tie the 18's
> ??? LOL.. I usually use size 6/0 thread... and I use
> 3/0 if I'm gonna use thread to build up a thread
> body.. But I ordered some 8/0 thread the other day
> for the size 18 midges/small drys.. Will the 8/0
> instead of 6/0 help Me much???? Oh, and Tony..I
> don't know if you remember it or not, but last year
> I said I did NOT like Gudebrod thread?? Well, black
> is about my most used color of thread, and i had run
> out except for a spool of Gudebrod about the time i
> made that statement. and now, I like it better than
> any other brand of thread...I don't know if it just
> grew on Me, or if it's just what one gets used too,
> but I can now TRY to use other brands, but it just
> ain't the same. i hope they never stop making
> it...So, that is Gudebrod size 8/0 that I ordered..
> Will it be small enough to tie the size 18's good???
> I know we had had discussions about threads and how
> one brands 8/0 might be the same as another brands
> 6/0, or 12/0, and that the only real way (I think it
> was) to compare apples to apples was to go by denier
> weight??? But threads like Gudebrod don't tell ya
> the denier weight for it's sizes, so how do you know
> outside of ordering some and finding out that way??
> to the ppl who are tying flies that will be smaller
> than 18, my hat's off to ya, cause I'm trying to tie
> these 18's with my 3.50 power reading glasses and
> can hardly see the hook hahaha... Course, I need to
> put myself up a white or maybe light pastel
> background to tie against I guess it would help
> some.I tied one size 28 last year, but I think that
> might be a first and last for me LOL..Thanks, Chuck
>
> Oh, one last thing.. If one goes by denier weight to
> see how thick a thread is, if it is a waxed thread
> vs non waxed, wouldn't that throw the denier thing a
> curve??? Because of the weight of the wax??
>
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