I'm not sure how this topic got so confused ... :-P The question asked was NOT "how can I get detailed viewer stats that have enough data I could use it when talking to marketing/sponsorship/advertisemnt/etc people" ... the question was simply "has anyone figured out a way to get feedburner like subscriber estimations without using feedburner" ... and I have ... so I replied. That was the sole question I tried to answer. "yes I have made a system that estimates subscribers similar to how I imagine feedburner does it" (maybe better :-P)
I didnt even try to answer any other questions about how to track viewers/hits/downloads etc to such a level that sponsors or advertisers would like to see. I never claimed to be able to provide those stats in any 'report'. It was a question about subsrciber estimates ala feedburner ... and that the only thing I said I could provide. Somewhere it jumped topics ... a which point I only meant to say that a simple estimation of subscribers (not some detailed market data report) ... does not require knowledge of how many times a file was actually viewed, and that with some decent logic built in can minimize the effects of NAT'd IPs in the calculations. No you can't get a perfect number ... but you cna get close. (and again, the question was about subscriber estimates ala feedburner ... if you already know thats not what you're looking for, than any similar solution is again ... not going to be what your looking for) Most vloggers are not looking (yet) for market data they can show to advertisers or sponsors ... and I dont think thats what the question that started this was asking for. Now, if you want that Andrew, then yes I totally agree with you that a simple subscriber estimation isn't going to cut the mustard and would be misleading ... but not everyone is rocketboom. :-P Some of us still get a nice warm fuzzy feeling for servicing our 15 viewers, and are happy to have rough estimation for our own use. pinging a server on a view is an interesting idea, but again ... viewers != subscribers. - Dave http://www.davidmeade.com ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor --------------------~--> Get Bzzzy! (real tools to help you find a job). Welcome to the Sweet Life. http://us.click.yahoo.com/A77XvD/vlQLAA/TtwFAA/lBLqlB/TM --------------------------------------------------------------------~-> Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/