Yes, I see the future as untethered where our knowledge, interaction and work follows our activity. A scenario of this: We can be at home in the business room working on a product, paying bills, and notice a interesting vlog episode. Mark that vlog episode to take along -- it goes onto a portable device along with work objects to be completed tagged to take with us. We take the portable device and call a friend through it that we're meeting at a cafe saying we're on our way. On the way we listen to a podcast on an technical subject we want to understand. We get to the cafe early and enjoy watching, linking from and commenting on vlogs until our friend arrives.
-- Enric -======- http://www.cirne.com Determine Media --- In firstname.lastname@example.org, Mike Meiser <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On 12/24/05, Enric <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > I don't think Tivo is Television. Classical television cannot not be > > automaticaly stored, retrieved, scanned and viewed out of order (this > > can be manually performmed with programming recorders -- but just > > about anything can be put into a manual process.) So I think this is > > an intermediate medium to Blogging. I'd call it a Tivo medium with > > the iPod containing similar capacity. It lacks the full two way > > interaction of Blogs, but contains the automatic storage, scanning and > > retrieval capability. > > > > Actually... I've found that playing back video blogs on the TV can be quite > the two way experience. Now, I'm using my iPod, BUT I suppose a Tivo might > work just as well. What makes it work is having a parrellel queue... a > landing page where by you can follow along as you wish. Also a remote for > your ipod or tivo comes in handy, of course for skipping, pausing, > restarting or rewinding. Here's an example workflow we set up with > mefeedia... First mefeedia automatically creates for you a web based > browseable queue as it has from the start... but now it also provides for > you a single personal RSS feed that directly parrallels that queue. The RSS > feed hence goes to your Fireant, iTunes/ipod or perhaps in the future tivo > or Akimbo as they start to better support vlogs... Basically you can > instantly pull up your watch page on your laptop and jump to any post your > watching on TV. Since the order of video playback and videos in your queue > roughly correspond it's easy to follow along.. That said... I don't > normally follow along for EVERY vlog post... In fact I mostly "passively" > watch video... then when something catches my interest I jump to my queue > and follow up on it by tagging it, favoriting it for future reference or > commenting... of course there are other options like re-vlogging, but you > get the idea. > > Case in point the other day I was watching all manner of G4Tech TV and > rocketboom and mobuzz and Steve Garfields vlog soup came on... In it were > perhaps 8 new vlogs, 3 of which based on steve's review I found VERY > interesting. While it played I pulled up mefeedia did quick quiries based on > the vlog names from steve, browsed and previewed them and added them to my > video queue. All simultaneously while videos continued to play, except for a > brief period where I had to rewind a little to catch the spelling on one of > the vlog names. > > Now this is not saying this will work for everyone... However I find that > the passive TV experience and the active experience of using a laptop is a > very powerful combination... not nearly so interactive as one might think... > but it does depend on some sort of easy to get at landing page with which > you can follow along, the laptop or a computer set up withing viewing > proximity of TV, and some sort of RSS capable device. t's just one of > thousands of "workflow scenarios". Workflow scenarios are my thing I guess > these day... I find it extremely interesting the way vloggers watch vlogs... > do they use mefeedia, ant, itunes, the ipod.... do they watch online, or > offline, how often do they comment, tag, revlog, favorite... what other > "actions" do they like to perform while vlogging? Everyone's experience is > completely different and they're all VERY legitimat... This is exactly why I > hate streaming media, DRM. and other closed systems... they fundamentally > endoctrinate workflows that are wholey incompatible with some of the > tremendous ways we can use media... it's not just that you HAVE to watch > google's videos in the web browser experience only.... but that you can't > create a playlist, you can't comment, you can't play it offline... you can't > put it on your tivo... you can't format shift it so it'll work on linux, or > the PSP. In fact that's a good point... in order to simply play a DVD on > linux you STILL have to install software that breaks the law. This is not > about the copyright holders rights or law... it's the reality of media. > > Mark my words the future of media is open and portable... because the > benifits to media being "sociable" are just to great and problems of such > "technological controls" and even "technological implimentation of law" are > to high. I may bave said all this before... but DRM may exist in the corners > of the network... but the CENTER of the network, and indeed the vast > majority of it will be open, because well you can't be the center of crap if > you're a walled garden. > > So, this is how little things are affected by BIG issues.... It's that this > media is open that gives us the accessibility to create usable experiences > like this one simple workflow I've talked about. That said there are two > things that I see that need improving. > > 1) someone needs to create a plugin for iTunes using their API that > automatically rips all non-drm podcast videos to mp4's and deletes the > original... while retaining all meta information. I think FireAnt is also > working on such functionality for use with the ipod and PSP... And indeed > that's a great way to handle format incompatibilities... but there are > others too... which I'm not going to get into because I'd have to kill you > all. ;) LOL! > > 2) we need more portable media playback devices that are network connected > like the tivo, the akimbo... the PSP has the potential but is not there yet. > And then there's the fabled "networked ipod". These devices will aggregate > videos directly using RSS without the need to sync with a computer... using > services like mefeedia so that they don't have to be configured directly to > add new feeds or queue new videos. So the next time I'm watching Steve > Garfields vlog Soup and decide to add a new feed the videos will > automatically start downloading to the device so I can be watching them on > my TV in minutes. > > In the future I may see a movie on the web that I want to watch while I'm at > work and purchase it and have it on my TV when I get home ready to watch. > Think of it as Netflix... but when you add something to your queue... > well... let's just say our delivery mechanism is "slightly" more efficient. > > -Mike > > -- Enric > > -======- > > http://www.cirne.com > > Determine Media > > > > --- In email@example.com, "Andreas Haugstrup Pedersen" > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > We're speaking past eachother, I think. There are two kinds of > > > "videoblogging" - for the sake of the argument we can call one > > > videoblogging and the other video podcasting. > > > > > > The first includes aspects of the blog. It's a remediation of the > > blog and > > > tv (among others). Think McLuhan. The latter is a transparent > > remediation > > > of tv. It's faithful to tv. > > > > > > The difference is easiest to see in reading patterns. Videoblogging > > are > > > read like blogs, they are small pieces loosely joined (by the > > reader). The > > > latter is read like tv, one at the time. Seperated, passively. > > > > > > Read this for an intermission <URL: > > > > > > > http://hypertext.rmit.edu.au/vlog/archives/2005/12/24/tv-killed-voggings-star/ > > > > > > > > > > > > When I say embedded video gives the best reading experience for web > > video, > > > I am talking about videoblogging. A blog entry is *not* the frames > > that > > > make up the video. It is also the surrounding blog post, the > > comments, the > > > title, the sidebar, the entire network around it (inbound and outbound > > > links). That is what makes blogging different from old media. When you > > > take the video and move it to an iPod it may be the same frames, but > > it is > > > not the same Work - it is the same video, but a new media and > > different > > > content. > > > > > > I make videoblogging, and my personaly interest is videoblogging. > > Content > > > that works well in a videoblogging setting is different from content > > that > > > works well in a video podcasting setting. Just as there is content > > which > > > works better on tv than in radio (a boxing match comes to mind). > > Thinking > > > they're the same is naive. > > > > > > - Andreas > > > > > > PS. Did evilvlog begin censoring itself? > > > > > > > > > On Fri, 23 Dec 2005 17:33:34 +0100, Michael Meiser > > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED] ...> wrote: > > > > > > > Andreas, I understand your perspective, and respect and find your > > > > methods interesting, but there's thousands and thousands of people > > > > who disagree with your idea of best practices. > > > > > > > > Alternatively... I think getting all my vlogs automatically > > > > downloaded and synced to my video ipod is the best thing ever. I > > > > watch them on my TV while working on my laptop, and through mefeedia > > > > am able to easily work, or if I see something interesting... quickly > > > > find the original post and follow up on it. The disconnect that I > > > > thought would happen do to putting videos on TV has NOT happened in > > > > fact... I find i can comment and follow more vlogs. If I miss > > > > something I just hit the pause button or rewind on the iPod... if I > > > > am bored with a clip I skip it... All the while I can follow along > > > > on mefeedia on my laptop... tagging things, marking favorites... > > > > following up on links from Steve G.'s Vlog soup.. or rocketboom's > > > > links. All we need to do in my opinion is make it even easier to > > > > follow along through mefeedia with what's happening on the TV by > > > > improving our web based queue and our RSS queue which plays back > > > > through the video ipod. > > > > > > > > Finally, I also like embedded flash for in browser play back, as > > > > probably does Jay.. that's not the problem... the problem is when > > > > there is NO alternative link. It drives me up the wall. How can I > > > > download it... how can I rip it to my ipod, how can I share it with a > > > > friend... No this sort of flash playback is not going away... but > > > > video blogging is at least putting a serious dampner on DRM'd and > > > > locked down files like this and encouraging more openess and > > > > portability... which means more flexibility, increased accessibility, > > > > and enhanced useability. > > > > > > > > -Mike > > > > > > > > On Dec 23, 2005, at 5:49 AM, Andreas Haugstrup Pedersen wrote: > > > > > > > > On Fri, 23 Dec 2005 07:42:08 +0100, Jay dedman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > >> i wonder if these Embedded Flash players will last? > > > >> i obviously keep seeing aggregated video as being the way to go. > > > >> all the video i watch ive downloaded through subscription....not gone > > > >> to web pages to watch Flash videos. > > > > > > > > Embedded video is the best viewing experience for web video. It > > won't go > > > > away. For blog entries that mixes video with other forms (text, > > images) > > > > embedded video is much nicer. And it actually fits into the web > > context. > > > > > > > > I've never downloaded a video through subscription. I will start > > once I > > > > find videos I watch like a watch tv... passively. When I find videos > > > > where > > > > I don't want to (or can't) be a part of a dialogue around the videos. > > > > > > > > I use RSS to be notified if a blog has updated. It's great for that. > > > > > > > > - Andreas > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > <URL:http://www.solitude.dk/> > > > Commentary on media, communication, culture and technology. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor --------------------~--> Most low income homes are not online. Make a difference this holiday season! http://us.click.yahoo.com/5UeCyC/BWHMAA/TtwFAA/lBLqlB/TM --------------------------------------------------------------------~-> Yahoo! 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