On Sun, 25 Dec 2005 17:17:13 +0100, Mike Meiser <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On 12/24/05, Enric <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >> I don't think Tivo is Television. Classical television cannot not be >> automaticaly stored, retrieved, scanned and viewed out of order (this >> can be manually performmed with programming recorders -- but just >> about anything can be put into a manual process.) So I think this is >> an intermediate medium to Blogging. I'd call it a Tivo medium with >> the iPod containing similar capacity. It lacks the full two way >> interaction of Blogs, but contains the automatic storage, scanning and >> retrieval capability. In this case you can look at three kinds of interactivity. - Transmission. Viewer selects from preprogrammed flow of content. The way tv works. Not really much interactivity, but hey. - Consultation. Viewer selects from a pool of content. Video on-demand, Tivo, iPod. Web reading works by consultation also, but it's different from video on-demand (see below). - Conversation. Viewer can add content to the pool of content (affecting the viewing situation for others). Integrated on blogs. Not present in video on-demand. That's a simplified view on interactivity. In reality I subscribe to a variation where there is a fourth type (registration) and they're ordered in a cube with a total of 12 different types. But this is enough for my point here. No, I didn't think up the cube model, but I wish I did. Blogs and video on-demand are both forms of consultative interactivity. There is a pool of content and the reader picks which ones to watch and in which order to read them. But they are different nevertheless. In video on-demand situations the individual pieces are not seen as being part of a whole. They are individual blocks - you pick something to watch, you watch it and then you pick something else to watch (or you create a playlist ahead of time). The typical situation is an iPod or a DVD (menu: movie & extra material). On the blog the pieces are a part of a network. The pieces don't live on their own, but largely in their connections with other pieces. You can read a piece and go further into the network by following connections from that piece to the next creating your own little 'path' through the blogosphere. This is less apparent in videoblogs than in blogs partly because links in video are harder to do, partly because videobloggers don't link as much (they are linking a whole lot more than they used to!). It is a very different reading situation, and the meaning created if very different from that of the video on-demand system. Add the fact that conversational interactivity is integrated into the blogs and the whole thing blows up in your face. Now you are a participant on equal terms with anyone else. You can recontexualise any other piece by creating your own piece and making a connection between the two. And then Michael describes his own setup: > Actually... I've found that playing back video blogs on the TV can be > quite > the two way experience. Now, I'm using my iPod, BUT I suppose a Tivo > might > work just as well. What makes it work is having a parrellel queue... a > landing page where by you can follow along as you wish. Also a remote for > your ipod or tivo comes in handy, of course for skipping, pausing, > restarting or rewinding. Here's an example workflow we set up with > mefeedia... First mefeedia automatically creates for you a web based > browseable queue as it has from the start... but now it also provides for > you a single personal RSS feed that directly parrallels that queue. The > RSS > feed hence goes to your Fireant, iTunes/ipod or perhaps in the future > tivo > or Akimbo as they start to better support vlogs... Basically you can > instantly pull up your watch page on your laptop and jump to any post > your > watching on TV. [SNIP a bunch - you know how it is, Michael :o)] What you're describing here is not a video podcasting system (not how I describe video podcasting above). It behaves more like a blog-system than a video on-demand system. Like setting up a second monitor on your computer. You are one-step removed from the blog in much the same way that you are one-step removed from a blog entry when you read blogs through a feed reader. The big difference being that you loose anything *not* in the video file itself such as additional text with links and explanations. That's a big drawback in my book, but if that's how you watch, that's how you watch. It's sort of a mix between the blog and the video on-demand system where you get the disconnect from the on-demand system while retaining the potential of the blog's activity (the potential, it's not actually there while you watch). What I don't get is why you just don't watch the video in a seperate window on the computer? - Andreas -- <URL: http://www.solitude.dk/ > Commentary on media, communication, culture and technology. ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor --------------------~--> Get Bzzzy! (real tools to help you find a job). Welcome to the Sweet Life. http://us.click.yahoo.com/KIlPFB/vlQLAA/TtwFAA/lBLqlB/TM --------------------------------------------------------------------~-> Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/