Yeah what I said ... ;)

Bill Streeter
LO-FI SAINT LOUIS
www.lofistl.com

--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, "Michael Verdi" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
>
> It isn't as simple as adding a link back. Most people use some 
version of
> the non-commercial cc license. If that's the case they shouldn't 
be allowed
> to host your stuff at all unless you specifically grant them that 
license.
> What you are saying with the NC license is that it is NOT okay to 
use this
> for commercial purposes (since VEOH is hosting your content on 
their
> commercial site instead of just linking to it, it's a commercial 
use)
> without first obtaining permission from the creator. They are not 
doing
> this. Providing a link back only fixes the attribution clause.
> 
> -Verdi
> 
> On 4/7/06, Devlon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> >  Jarrod at veoh has been in touch with me and I've mentioned how 
simple it
> > is to adhere to most of these concerns by simply adding a 
permalink to the
> > site and to the individual clips.
> >
> > I used the aggregators that do get it as examples of how very 
simple it is
> > to do this.  The info is in the feed...they are purposely not 
mining that
> > information and not using it on their site.
> >
> > On 4/7/06, Peter Van Dijck <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > >  Bullshit: they are clearly, blatantly violating licenses by
> > re-encoding and not linking back.
> >
> > All they need to do is attribute, and it'll be mostly ok. Saying:
> > "contact us and we'll stop violating your license" isn't enough.
> >
> > Peter
> > --
> > http://mefeedia.com
> >
> >
> > On 4/7/06, Halcyon Lujah <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >  > I have talked to Dmitry Shapiro, the CEO and he seemed VERY 
willing to
> > > do what it takes to please broadcasters. They are  working on 
some
> > > sort of "claim your feed" campaign as well.
> > >
> > > If you don't want to claim your feed, and don't want your 
content
> > > available to Veoh users, email them.  I would be very suprised 
if they
> > > didn't remove your feed immediately.
> > >
> > > -Halcyon
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > On 4/7/06, Stephanie Bryant <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > > Veoh has my whole feed in their service. They have ripped my 
videos to
> > > > their formats and are re-distributing them, using their own
> > > > permalinks.
> > > >
> > > > From their own TOS:
> > > > " As explained above, Veoh does not permit copyright 
infringing
> > > > activities on the Veoh Service and reserves the right to 
terminate
> > > > access to the Veoh Service, and remove all User Materials 
posted, by
> > > > any persons who are found to be repeat infringers (i.e., 
persons found
> > > > to have uploaded copyright infringing User Material on more 
than two
> > > > occasions)."
> > > >
> > > > Here's the email I sent them:
> > > > Dear Veoh,
> > > >
> > > > You are infringing on my license terms for Hold My Beer and 
Watch
> > > > This! 
(http://mortaine.blogspot.com).<http://mortaine.blogspot.com%29.>
> > > >
> > > > I have a creative commons license on my videoblog. My 
license terms
> > > > are derivs-ok, non-commercial, and must-attribute. This 
means that if
> > > > you make a derivative work by ripping my videos to your 
format for
> > > > re-distribution, it must be for non-commercial purposes. 
>From what I
> > > > can see, Veoh is a commercial entity. If this is not the 
case, please
> > > > send me your 501c status documentation.
> > > >
> > > > However, you are still violating the "must-attribute" 
portion of my
> > > > videoblog's license, and that is not acceptable. You are 
displaying my
> > > > work on your website without attribution to the creator. 
Please create
> > > > a clear, unambiguous link-back to my website. Personally, I 
would
> > > > prefer it if you made the permalink space on your site as a 
permalink
> > > > to the vlog entries on my blog site. It's not as if you 
don't have
> > > > that data available, and doesn't seem like it would be too 
technically
> > > > difficult.
> > > >
> > > > Failure to comply with my CC license means that you are 
infringing on
> > > > my copyright, something that is specifically prohibited in 
the Veoh
> > > > Terms of Service.
> > > >
> > > > Please let me know how you are rectifying this situation.
> > > >
> > > > Sincerely,
> > > > Stephanie Bryant
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > Stephanie Bryant
> > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > Blogs, vlogs, and audioblogs at:
> > > > http://www.mortaine.com/blogs
> > > >
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