Stan, Nice site. I'm on a cel connection in the middle of an internet black hole in rural michigan, otherwise I would most likely have some nice things to say about your video as well.
Anyway, I run both Joomla and Mambo, and I also run a few wikis. I really like Joomla. What additional mods do you have attached to your joomla install? Anything that helps you tailor your site to video? Cheers, Ron http://pawsitivevybe.com I was using vPIP on a mambo install not too long ago, and it was really sweet. YOu should check it out. On Dec 6, 2006, at 10:09 AM, Stan Hirson, Sarah Jones wrote: > I really have to join in on this one... > > I switched from Blogger and TypePad to a CMS because of the > constraints that the blogging software imposed on me: the > chronologically linear posting, and the way older posts drop into > archive ether. I wanted to explore one subject in depth as an on-going > process. I wanted to have the posts come off a multi-level menu system > so that the visitor could make the choices of what to see based on > content, not a linear framework that I imposed > > The CMS I chose was Joomla! It is a very powerful do-anything package. > And, it is true, difficult at times to learn. If you are interested in > a very flexible CMS with a large user-base, I suggest you take a look > at Joomla! You can see how I have used itg for video on > http://hestakaup.com > > It came with a learning curve but also with a very large > user-community for support. The hardest part was when I moved some > domains around and I had to get into Apache and .htacess and that > "stuff". But it was not all that much worse than figuring out a lot of > other issues. > > Now that I have it up and running I am very pleased with it. My > background is as a documentary film maker with a need and knack for > working with computers. I don't know if I could compare learning > Jooomla! to learning FCP... > > As for why a CMS of any kind... > > Some of us do not want to do episodic "shows" or use the so-called > vlog as an audition medium for getting into MSM or MSE (mainstream > entertainment). We want to explore content and manage our own > technology. We want to earn money from our work without "monetizing". > We want to long-tail it and develop new platforms for distribution and > content. > > Mike Hudack wrote "The sooner Drupal goes away the better off we all > are." I hope he meant that in some metaphorical sense that has > escaped me, but just in case he meant it semi-literally I take it that > the CMS like Drupal is a threat to the "shows" that Blip has > been promoting. CMS is ideal for rich media: text, graphics, photos, > and videos. The stuff that gets overlooked by Blip. > > Sorry this is so long, but I felt I had to say something. > > Stan Hirson > http://hestakaup.com (on Joomla!) > > --- In [email protected], "Mike Meiser" > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > It's funny my gut reaction was that we had an imposter posting under > Mike > > Hudack, I've never known him to be so blunt and harsh. > > > > But then I've got to say, as a non-programmer... drupal, plone and > the whole > > CMS thing... are atrocities that developers foist onto everyday > users... "oh > > but look at how great it is, and what you can do with it!" > > > > He programers it's what YOU can do with it! Drupal, plone and CMS > systems > > are for developers not real live human beings whom are non-uber > geeks. > > > > I cannot TELL you how many times I've had someone foist drupal, > plone or > > some other CMS on me when all I needed was a PBwiki or a wordpress > install. > > > > 99.99% of people don't want or need a big swiss army knife of a CMS > system. > > They need the single tool they need and that's it. > > > > Just some observations. > > > > It's absolutely nothing persoanl with drupal... I actually want > drupal and > > plone and all those other great CMS to succeed... but unless you > have a > > developer on call 24x7 drupal is not for the every user. > > > > There, I've really shown my colors. I'm a technological neophyte. > The > > illusion of my knowing anything at all is shattered. :) > > > > Peace, > > > > -Mike > > mmeiser.com/blog > > mefeedia.com > > > > On 12/5/06, sull <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > lol. > > > i suppose, yeah. > > > kinda harsh, even if you're not a fan of drupal. > > > if you dont use it or like it, no harm done. many people do like > it and > > > *know* how to use it well. > > > better to have it exist than not ;) > > > > > > sull > > > > > > On 12/5/06, Mike Hudack <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > > You ask because you think that's a crzy thing to say? > > > > > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > From: [email protected] > <videoblogging%40yahoogroups.com> < > > > > [email protected] <videoblogging%40yahoogroups.com>> > > > > To: [email protected] > <videoblogging%40yahoogroups.com> < > > > > [email protected] <videoblogging%40yahoogroups.com>> > > > > Sent: Tue Dec 05 21:05:49 2006 > > > > Subject: Re: [videoblogging] Re: Media RSS what? > > > > > > > > are you at a bar drinking beers? > > > > > > > > On 12/5/06, Mike Hudack <[EMAIL PROTECTED] <mike%40blip.tv>> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > The sooner Drupal goes away the better off we all are. > > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > > > From: > [email protected]<videoblogging% > 40yahoogroups.com><videoblogging%40yahoogroups.com> > > > > > > [mailto:[email protected] > > > <videoblogging%40yahoogroups.com><videoblogging% > 40yahoogroups.com>] > > > > > On Behalf Of > > > > > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED]<groups-yahoo-com%40mmeiser.com><groups-yahoo- > com%40mmeiser.com> > > > > > > Sent: Tuesday, December 05, 2006 5:33 PM > > > > > > To: > [email protected]<videoblogging% > 40yahoogroups.com><videoblogging%40yahoogroups.com> > > > > > > Subject: Re: [videoblogging] Re: Media RSS what? > > > > > > > > > > > > I like the idea, but wouldn't it serve vloggers on the whole > > > > > > more if it was an addition to wordpress. > > > > > > > > > > > > Also, isn't ourmedia running on drupal. Certainly having > rich > > > > > > media feeds from ourmedia would be pretty damn cool as well. > > > > > > > > > > > > I'm torn. Everything needs to do mediaRSS. > > > > > > > > > > > > -Mike > > > > > > mmeiser.com/blog > > > > > > mefeedia.com > > > > > > > > > > > > On 12/5/06, Mike Hudack > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]<mike%40blip.tv><mike%40blip.tv>> wrote: > > > > > > > We would very happily support such a project. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Two ways you could go about it: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Base it on something like Wordpress, so that everyone can > > > > > > install it > > > > > > > themselves (but this means that everyone would have to > find > > > > > > hosting, > > > > > > > install it themselves, et cetera). > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Or you could base it on Wordpress-MU, and we could offer > hosting > > > > > > > services for it over at blip. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > For whatever it's worth, we're moving towards offering > much better > > > > > > > show pages on blip that could potentially fit many > people's > > > > > > needs for > > > > > > > a Web presence. That's the idea, anyway. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > > > > > From: [email protected] > > > <videoblogging%40yahoogroups.com><videoblogging%40yahoogroups.com> > > > > > > > > > > > > [mailto:[email protected] > > > <videoblogging%40yahoogroups.com><videoblogging% > 40yahoogroups.com>] > > > > > > > > > On Behalf Of Rick Rey > > > > > > > > Sent: Tuesday, December 05, 2006 4:42 PM > > > > > > > > To: [email protected] > > > <videoblogging%40yahoogroups.com><videoblogging%40yahoogroups.com> > > > > > > > > Subject: Re: [videoblogging] Re: Media RSS what? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > We really need a vlog-based CMS. Really, as in really > really. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > If it came from this community, all the better. My > choice > > > > > > would be > > > > > > > > to partner with a hosting provider (Blip) and integrate > > > > > > with their > > > > > > > > services. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I think we already know how it would work, what it would > > > > > > look like, > > > > > > > > etc. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -Rick > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On 12/5/06, Joshua Kinberg <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > <jkinberg%40gmail.com><jkinberg%40gmail.com>> > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Why not use HaveMoneyWillVlog to raise funds for this > > > > > > > > > development effort? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Or create a new HMWV style project for development... > > > > > > > > "VlogDevBounty" > > > > > > > > > anyone? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -Josh > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On 12/5/06, Steve Watkins <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > <steve%40dvmachine.com><steve%40dvmachine.com> > > > > > > > > > > > > > <steve%40dvmachine.com>> > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Id love to help out. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Anyway I'll start to talk about it here although > I agree > > > > > > > > that more > > > > > > > > > > detailed discussions probably belong elsewhere. > Is there > > > > > > > > somewhere > > > > > > > > > > > > > > we can go to talk about this in more detail on the > > > > > > web? Should > > > > > > > > > > we talk about it on drupal forums or is there better > > > > > > > > > > alternatives or reasons not to? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I havent tried Drupal 5 beta yet. I plan to install > it soon > > > > > > > > > > (been testing 4.7 previously). From memory, the > video module > > > > > > > > isnt part of > > > > > > > > > > the core is it? So I guess its not really beneficial > to have > > > > > > > > > > mediaRSS as part of the core unless video is too? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I see the video module is being updated quite a lot > > > > > > > > recently, seems > > > > > > > > > > like automatic thumbnails and other stuff got > added in > > > > > > > > November, by > > > > > > > > > > the looks of CSV messges: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > http://drupal.org/project/cvs/25274 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > So anyways I was ondering if you will be working > with > > > > > > whoever is > > > > > > > > > > currently maintaining the video module, that sort of > > > > > > > > thing. I am not > > > > > > > > > > a very good programmer so Idoubt I can be too much > direct > > > > > > > > help, but > > > > > > > > > > I can do testing & give technical feedback. I > have some > > > > > > > > funds that > > > > > > > > > > would probably translate to $200 US available to > help the > > > > > > > > cause, if > > > > > > > > > > its actually of use. Is there some sort of channel > for drual > > > > > > > > > > sponsored projects or is it just simply paying > directly > > > > > > > > whoever is > > > > > > > > > > willing (eg you by the sounds of it, groovy), to > dedicate > > > > > > > > some time to the work? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Both my own future blog/vlog site, and some other > > > > > > > > projects, are on > > > > > > > > > > infinite hold waiting for me to do a drupal site > properly > > > > > > > > with the > > > > > > > > > > features I know I want. Drupal has come quite a long > way, > > > esp > > > > > > > > > > the video module, and Im confident Drupal with > the right > > > > > > > > modules can do > > > > > > > > > > 80% of what I need right now. Further > improvements to > > > > > > > > video & feed > > > > > > > > > > features are something I care enough about to > contribute to > > > > > > > > > > financially, so may actually have more money than > > > > > > stated above > > > > > > > > > > available if this stuff starts to fly. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > There are also weirder things Id like to do if a few > > > > > > > > other existing > > > > > > > > > > modules did just a bit more, and knew about > eachother a > > > > > > > > little more. > > > > > > > > > > I see google map and timeline modules, and it > makes me > > > > > > > > wonder about > > > > > > > > > > mashing them together with video content uploaded > to the > > > > > > > > site, and > > > > > > > > > > having odd new ways to see peoples videos mapped > to time > > > > > > > > and space. > > > > > > > > > > It might be a dud idea for all I know, but until I > > > > > > see it I wont > > > > > > > > > > know if its a failure, and I dont qutie have the > skills > > > > > > > > to make it happen. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Cheers > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Steve of Elbows > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In [email protected] > > > <videoblogging%40yahoogroups.com><videoblogging%40yahoogroups.com> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > <videoblogging%40yahoogroups.com>, > > > > > > > > > "Matt Savarino" > > > > > > > > > > <leanbackvids@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I'm sure sponsoring a G would improve the > chance of > > > > > > > > adding mRSS to > > > > > > > > > > > the Drupal core (version 5.0), which is still > in beta. > > > > > > > > After the > > > > > > > > > > > final release, all changes to the core modules > will be > > > > > > > > part of the > > > > > > > > > > > next version. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > However, mRSS would be easy to add alongside an > existing > > > > > > > > > > > Drupal > > > > > > > > > site... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > You could create a new module that generates your > > > > > > mRSS file(s) > > > > > > > > > > > upon each node add/edit, or better yet, just > run it > > > > > > > > every hour w/ > > > > > > > > > > > the cron function built into the module. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > If others are interested in Drupal, I'd love to > talk > > > > > > > > more with you. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I'm going to start building add-on modules for > version > > > 5... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > aggregator: > > > > > > > > > > > - full support for enclosures, mRSS and geoRSS > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > video: > > > > > > > > > > > - improve add/edit form > > > > > > > > > > > - expand mime-types (currently m4v not used w/ QT) > > > > > > > > > > > - expand services (add myspace video, tagworld, > etc) > > > > > > > > > > > - add iTunes feed (w/ customized options like > Feedburner) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Email me offlist if you'd like to help out or have > other > > > > > > > > > > > feature > > > > > > > > > > requests. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -Matt > > > > > > > > > > > http://vlogmap.org > > > > > > > > > > > http://ridertech.com > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yahoo! 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