[snip] > On 1/3/07, Enric <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > A custom flash player > > written by online video company MyHeavy.com that overlays > their logo, > > display ads on top prior to rolling and such is clearly > different to > > any observer and the consumer from a browser. > > Not to the web it isn't. Flash is just another user agent. > We may expect clients to look like browsers, but that's just > a misperception.
Agreed. > > > And even if it did, so what? You have zero chance of controlling > > > the behavior of all the third parties who can author an > FLV player > > > in Flash, while you definitely have the ability to force them to > > > respect your wishes using Referer headers. > > > > That puts the responsibility on the content creator to continually > > hunt down infringers and put them on notice. There's no > incentive to > > stop future infringement. > > It puts the responsibility on the content host, yes, but that > only has to be done once. (Unless you want to be picky about > which third parties can link to you, of course, but even then > it's a lot faster and more effective to have a rule for each > blocked linker than to try to get them to rewrite their site > for you. ) That's correct. The problem is that we do want to be picky. We want to allow people to use VPIP to play back videos hosted on blip, but we don't want to allow them to use the MyHeavy player on MyHeavy.com (unless it's the content creator themselves making that decision, in which case it's OK). Make sense? The issue here is that it's always case-by-case, and I challenge you to create rewrite rules that don't include a narrow whitelisting of things like VPIP (which don't have usable user-agent reporting anyway). [snip] > > MyHeavy (and Veoh before them) are not spammers. They > don't move to a > > new server, zombie a computer and such to continue their > work. They > > are companies or individuals that will act professionaly if > incentivized. > > The instant you convince Veoh, here comes MyHeavy and > hundreds of others. The best evidence that this is so is > that this whole thing is a permathread among the > videobloggers. You could work it out with each of them, > which has been a total failure so far, or you could just fix > the problem. Lucas, how do you want to fix the problem? I'm all ears on this issue. I'm ready to fix the problem. I'm just not sure that I see a clear technical solution.
