For sure, the internet has trained *consumers* not to pay for much of
anything online.

However, what we are discussing here is a business to business
transaction, and perhaps there is tipping point potential.  Business
is used to paying for products and services. Many of the original
content producers in the video space do not have the huge audience
size to garner a seat at the table.

But there is micro-value in the aggregation. A micropayment system for
"b2b" begins to make more sense in the marketplace.  It is the
responsibility of we the producers though to train the marketplace to
pay us, rather than expect payment if we keep delivering for free.


r



On 1/28/07, Melissa Gira <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> And in the last few weeks, the one micropayment service I actually
>  used and got something good out of, Bitpass, closed shop with little
>  notice.
>
>  Bitpass ran the payment end for Mperia.com, which I had used in late
>  2004/early 2005 to sell spoken word mp3s, which served as a sort of
>  gateway drug into podcasting. When I could get a much larger
>  audience out of podcasting, I stopped putting new work up at Mperia
>  -- which had as much to do about the community coming up around
>  podcasting as it did the shortcomings of Mperia.
>
>  Melissa
>
>  Melissa Gira
>  Sexerati: Smart Sex
>  The Future of Sex: Video Podcast
>  sexerati.com
>
>  On Jan 28, 2007, at 10:17 AM, Mike Hudack wrote:
>
>  > Ah, micropayments, that favorite topic of mine! Way back when, long
>  > before blip, I tried to build a micropayments service with a few of
>  > the
>  > folks now at blip. The challenges we saw then are the same challenges
>  > we see now: in order to do micropayments effectively you need a system
>  > to pool transactions, and to do this you need a compelling
>  > collection of
>  > content from a compelling collection of providers. At the end of the
>  > day building a real micropayments system is really about network
>  > building. No one's managed to do this well.
>  >
>  >> -----Original Message-----
>  >> From: [email protected]
>  >> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ron Watson
>  >> Sent: Sunday, January 28, 2007 9:00 AM
>  >> To: [email protected]
>  >> Subject: Re: [videoblogging] Re: MyHeavy and Magnify and
>  >> aggregators in general
>  >>
>  >> I was just thinking of micro-payments. Any info out there on
>  >> the topic, or can we have a conversation.
>  >>
>  >> Cheers,
>  >> Ron Watson
>  >>
>  >> Pawsitive Vybe
>  >> 11659 Berrigan Ave
>  >> Cedar Springs, MI 49319
>  >> http://pawsitivevybe.com
>  >>
>  >> Personal Contact:
>  >> 616.802.8923
>  >> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>  >>
>  >> On the Web:
>  >> http://pawsitivevybe.com
>  >> http://k9disc.com
>  >> http://k9disc.blip.tv
>  >>
>  >>
>  >> On Jan 27, 2007, at 11:26 AM, johnleeke wrote:
>  >>
>  >>> It is fascinating to read between the lines and learn business
>  >>> diplomacy from Mike.
>  >>>
>  >>> I agree with David, when it comes to the legality and
>  >> morality of the
>  >>> issue, "opt out" simply empowers the illegal and immoral actions of
>  >>> these secondary agrigators and distributors of our content.
>  >> They want
>  >>> and take our content because it has a higher value that
>  >> what they have
>  >>> to pay for it. The fact that their business model is based
>  >> on paying
>  >>> absolutely nothing for the content is the problem.
>  >>>
>  >>> "We cannot afford it" sounds pretty lame when they have
>  >> million dollar
>  >>> budgets. But even on lesser budgets what happened to the "micro
>  >>> payment" idea? Wern't computers supposed to make "micro payments"
>  >>> practical? Why don't they set a policy of always paying,
>  >> then pay what
>  >>> they can negotiate with the content maker? Blip has done it
>  >> so we know
>  >>> it is possible. If they cannot arrive at an agreement with
>  >> the content
>  >>> makers, then they don't take the content.
>  >>>
>  >>> This seems pretty simple, and most of us learned it from
>  >> our Mommies
>  >>> by the time we were ten:
>  >>>
>  >>> "If it doesn't belong to you, then don't take it."
>  >>>
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