So what are we going to DO?
On 04/08/07, Irina <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> it's not ok
> it has never been ok
> and it can never be ok
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> On 8/4/07, Rupert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> > i had the same thought.
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> > everyone's been saying that it'd be ok if it was funny.
> >
> > i don't know about that. i'm not one to be po-faced, but what other
> > levels are at work here that make it any smarter or more valid than
> > it appears? none, as far as i can see. so why bother to do it?
> >
> > oh, because he knows it'll get a big audience.
> >
> > that's his motivation. which makes it even worse, i think.
> >
> > i don't feel any happier watching it than i feel watching Bernard
> > Manning, a white UK comedian who told essentially racist gags that
> > reinforced stereotypes and helped people feel it was OK to be
> > racist. he was always excused by the majority of white people here
> > because they were 'funny'. he died recently. i didn't mourn his
> > passing.
> >
> > maybe gena was right, and he was high. coked up people certainly have
> > a terrible sense of what's appropriate to say, and what's funny. so
> > perhaps he cut and posted it high as well.
> >
> > whatever, i think it's lame and unhelpful and basically pretty
> > shitty. i won't be subscribing to his show any time soon. i bet
> > he's really cut up about that ;) - especially now that his audience
> > figures have been massively boosted by a whole new type of person.
> >
> > Rupert
> > http://twittervlog.tv/
> > http://feeds.feedburner.com/twittervlog/
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> > On 4 Aug 2007, at 08:58, Jeffrey Taylor wrote:
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> > And personally, if Feldman had satirized the problem of the lack of
> > visible
> > gays in tech using effeminate stereotypes featuring unfunny steeotypes
> > club-going, drug-taking, sex-addicted queens (fagg.com? I don't think
> > so,
> > desptie the fact that a lot of you would be laughing.), I'd be on the
> > phone
> > with GLAAD in a heartbeat not to ask for this video to be removed,
> > but to
> > publicize what a counterproductive shitty thing Feldman has done.
> >
> >
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> > On 04/08/07, Kary Rogers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> > > On Aug 3, 2007, at 9:27 PM, Steve Woolf wrote:
> > >> The problem is that it's not funny. I don't mean that being
> > >> politically incorrect is not funny in and of itself. I mean that
> > >> comedy is hard to do. Insightful satire is hard to do.
> > >>
> > >
> > > I'm not sure what else I can add to this discussion but Steve Woolf's
> > > response hit close to home and I painfully nod in agreement.
> > >
> > > I struggle with walking that fine line quite a bit. Having an idea
> > > for satire is pretty easy but executing it with just the right take
> > > and the right comic sensibility is hard. My writing mind tends to
> > > lean toward parody and satire. Some ideas have a large target and
> > > it's not too hard to hit somewhere in the funny (e.g. Fred Phelps and
> > > his Westboro Baptist Church). Other issues like race have a much
> > > smaller target to hit to be funny. I've given it a shot a couple of
> > > times and people either find it funny or are offended. (No links
> > > cause I'd rather not look like an ignorant schmuck =) Plus, on top
> > > of all that, comedy is subjective. What makes me LoL may bore
> > > someone else.
> > >
> > > But unless one keeps trying to fine tune their execution by putting
> > > themselves out there and gauging the responses (with thick skin),
> > > they won't get better at finding the angle and finding their comic
> > > sensibility. Yeah. Comedy is hard.
> > >
> > > <3
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> > > http://karyhead.com
> > > http://goodcommitment.tv
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