Yeah good stuff that plugin :) As for those thoughts on the future, interesting stuff. I think the net is still largely conflicted over these things right now, many issues get involved, ranging from how sites/services try to make money, control over content, social networks that are still walled gardens at their core, many sectors converging on the same space, etc etc. On the plus side, its possible to imagine a future where things like microformats, openid, opensocial, are taken further. Before we know it there could be established ways for more sophisticated structures of conversation to be interoperable, where people could have more control over who they use to host different parts of their online existence, and where companies can compete and consumers have choice, without a big mess, or data being held hostage.
As for aggregators, I struggle to get excited about them for anything other than episodic video or podcast consumption. There are probably ways to present conversations & other social elements and relatioships, in really appealing ways, that would give people more reason to look to an aggregator for this stuff, but I dont see it too often. I'll get excited again if the aggregator becomes the central hub that is a beautiful window onto our personal net lives, and can handle rich and varied data,content,relationships etc from a variety of sites & services. But right now the popular social networks occupy this space, they want to be the hub, and whilst the door is ajar somewhat since the move to common API's for app developers to harness, there are still battles ahead, such as control over people's social graphs. The road ahead is complex but will lead to lovely simplicity for the masses in the end, I clearly and dearly hope. Babies that are being born right now need never experience the clunky and segregated nature of sites, services & types of communication paradigms that spread so many of us so awkwardly over the net to date. Maybe part of the problem, and the solution, is that humans are used to things happening in a certain physical place. The web of today lets us listen and yell here, there and everywhere, but in a pretty disjointed way. The gaps between here, there and everywhere need to be shrunk :) Cheers Steve Elbows --- In [email protected], "Mike Meiser" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Sweet work David, Jay and everyone who worked on it. > > Now all we need is 3rd party services, i.e. aggregators and meme > trackers to start tracking video comments as well as simply RSS feeds. > > This has long been one of the biggest failings of aggregators. it' > not just about the RSS... it's about the conversations at the end of > the permalinks... AND it's about other bloggers and their blog posts > referencing each other. > > As people such as David, Jay and the Show in the box team build more > value into the comments hopefully others will stand up and take > notice. > > Conversation tracking, meme tracking, or social aggregation. There are > many names and many approaches to exploring what is I personally think > is a whole new frontier beyond the diggs, facebooks, twitters and > myspaces into a much more organic and natural social space. > > These aggregators will make 1.0 versions of aggregators look one > dimensional. And they are. > > Examples of 1.0 aggregators > > - bloglines > - google newsreader > - various software aggregators: itunes, fireant, miro, newsgator, > netnewswire, vienna > > Examples of experiments in conversation tracking are > > - co.comments.com > - cocomment.com > - Megatite > - Commentful, commentful.blogflux.com > > And a couple of Meme trackers > > - megite.com > - techmeme.com > > There' probably a bunch I don't know about or am forgetting about. > > I have yet to see a RSS / blog aggregator that also tracks users > comments well. But there are a few out there who's names I can't > remember yet. > > I think the one web-service in this space that is best positioned to > start tracking video comments and memes across the vlogosphere is > mefeedia, but sadly though i've pushed and pushed it hasn't happened > yet. Consider this another suggestion. (Disclaimer: I'm not longer a > part of mefeedia.) > > -Mike > mmeiser.com/blog > > > On Jan 30, 2008 1:46 PM, Jay dedman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > for those of you using Wordpress, Davod Meade craeted a whole new > > plugin for video comments: > > http://www.davidmeade.com/wordpress-plugins#videoComments > > > > It seems works much better than what we were using Semanal: > > http://semanal.org/2008/01/27/week-5-2008-video-commenting-is-live/ > > > > The plugin adds some extra fields to the comment area. > > The video comment then shows up as a clickable thumbnail and lays > > inline if you also have vPIP installed. > > > > This is a good example of old fashioned team work. > > > > Jay > > > > -- > > http://jaydedman.com > > 917 371 6790 > > Professional: http://ryanishungry.com > > Personal: http://momentshowing.net > > Photos: http://flickr.com/photos/jaydedman/ > > Twitter: http://twitter.com/jaydedman > > RSS: http://tinyurl.com/yqgdt9 > > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > >
