Theoretically, aggregating comments RSS should be easier than aggregating mediaRSS - the RSS is typically following RSS 1.0 or 2.0 standards, whereas MediaRSS is all over the place.
YouTube actually has a great API for asking for all comments, including video comments, for a video. It uses GData. Does anyone know if Blip has a similar API? I have seen that Blip offers comments RSS for each post, but most of the time the conversations are happening at the vlogs, which have varying support for Comments RSS. It is quite a large engineering effort. Regards, Frank --- In [email protected], "Jan McLaughlin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Blogger just recently allowed commentors to check a box fo follow comments > via email. > > Havent any idea what you guys' are taling about, but... > > I love it when the coders get all excited. > > :) > > Jan > > On Jan 31, 2008 7:22 AM, David Meade <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > It's included in wordpress feeds already. - but I dont think it is > > in blogger feeds > > > > On Jan 31, 2008 1:12 AM, Mike Meiser <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Cool. > > > > > > Example of a comment feed reference from sull's blip feed: > > > http://sull.blip.tv/rss > > > > > > <item> > > > <guid isPermaLink="false">9856168E-BE0C-11DC-A000-B09E966E5011</guid> > > > <link>http://blip.tv/file/586535</link> > > > <title>What is it that's driving this?</title> > > > [...] > > > <wfw:commentRss> > > http://blip.tv/comments/?attached_to=post592232&skin=rss > > </wfw:commentRss> > > > <comments>http://blip.tv/file/586535</comments> > > > </item> > > > > > > wfw, as in <wfw:comments>, stands for "well formatted web" > > > > > > spec is as mentioned here: > > http://wellformedweb.org/news/wfw_namespace_elements/ > > > > > > <comments> being part of the original RSS 2.0 spec. It appears to be > > > the url to the page where you can make a comment. > > > > > > > > > So... Basically we have the start of a potential working ecosystem. > > > The next question is who else supports this? Wordpress? Blogger? > > > Moveable type? Feedburner? > > > > > > If not already a part of Wordpress could it be implimented with a > > > plugin or added to an existing plugin from SIAB or that which david > > > meade just created? > > > > > > Will have to do more research. > > > > > > -Mike > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Jan 31, 2008 12:16 AM, Sull <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > and i just checked blip feeds and... good on them ;) > > > > it's in there. > > > > > > > > > > > > On Jan 31, 2008 12:10 AM, Sull <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > For starters, their should be wide adoption of WFW - Well-Formed Web > > > > > wfw:commentRss namespace element. > > > > > > > > > > http://wellformedweb.org/news/wfw_namespace_elements/ > > > > > > > > > > > > http://www.sellsbrothers.com/spout/default.aspx?content=archive.htm#exposingRssComments > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Jan 30, 2008 10:56 PM, Mike Meiser <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It's not that complex though to track comments. > > > > > > > > > > > > You follow the permalink. > > > > > > > > > > > > You parse the page one time... you look for the comment RSS most > > > > > > platforms have them now. You display all or part of the comments > > in > > > > > > the aggregator... maybe as trackbacks, you just take them into > > > > > > account in the aggregator as ranking info, display them with the > > other > > > > > > comments and on site activity... maybe you simply say "8 more > > comments > > > > > > at joevlog.com". This last idea in particular is a personal > > favorite > > > > > > of mine because it simultaneously drives traffic back to the vlog > > > > > > while adding value to the aggregator. > > > > > > > > > > > > There in fact may be packages / API's out by now on for tracking > > blog > > > > > > comments... there are certainly meta standards, at least one > > > > > > documented micoformat for comments. > > > > > > > > > > > > There are of course potential partners. I've chatted with the > > guys at > > > > > > co.mments.com. They're huge potential for them to licensce their > > > > > > technology. It actually makes much more sense then running a > > single > > > > > > webservice for them... because obviously mefeedia and other > > > > > > specialized aggregatory communities don't compete directly or > > even > > > > > > indirectly. > > > > > > > > > > > > But... partnership is probably not necessary... because like i > > said... > > > > > > comments are very widely standardized around blogging packages > > these > > > > > > days. > > > > > > > > > > > > Of course.... there's still cooler things... there's tracking... > > > > > > which posts/ blogs are linking in the content to which posts. > > It's > > > > > > meme tracking... like techmeme.com and megit.com. Tracking the > > > > > > conversations in the vlogosphere. All that data is already in > > > > > > mefeedia's DB... all that need be done is to process it. The > > > > > > combination of these two types of tracking could light a fire > > under > > > > > > the vlogosphere.... and of course it's implied that it'd light a > > fire > > > > > > under the webservice that did such a thing just like it's done > > for > > > > > > companies like techmeme and dozens of others. > > > > > > > > > > > > What's more... it's organic unlike digg... and embraces an open > > > > > > ecosystem unlike youtube. > > > > > > > > > > > > Peace, > > > > > > > > > > > > -Mike > > > > > > mmeiser.com/blog > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Jan 30, 2008 9:44 PM, Frank Sinton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > We're working on putting technology in place - a new Video > > Search > > > > > > > Engine - that will hopefully enable the tracking of video > > responses > > > > > > > across vlogs. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The problem is extremely complex as there are many variations > > on > > > > > > > formatting, blog post URLs, embedding, etc. It will be > > interesting to > > > > > > > do some small experiments such as apply the technology to a > > "hot" > > > > > > > conversation that becomes threaded / moves in many different > > directions. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > Frank > > > > > > > > > > > > > > http://www.mefeedia.com - Discover the Video Web > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In [email protected], "Mike Meiser" > > > > > > > <groups-yahoo-com@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sweet work David, Jay and everyone who worked on it. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Now all we need is 3rd party services, i.e. aggregators and > > meme > > > > > > > > trackers to start tracking video comments as well as simply > > RSS feeds. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > This has long been one of the biggest failings of > > aggregators. it' > > > > > > > > not just about the RSS... it's about the conversations at the > > end of > > > > > > > > the permalinks... AND it's about other bloggers and their > > blog posts > > > > > > > > referencing each other. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > As people such as David, Jay and the Show in the box team > > build more > > > > > > > > value into the comments hopefully others will stand up and > > take > > > > > > > > notice. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Conversation tracking, meme tracking, or social aggregation. > > There are > > > > > > > > many names and many approaches to exploring what is I > > personally think > > > > > > > > is a whole new frontier beyond the diggs, facebooks, twitters > > and > > > > > > > > myspaces into a much more organic and natural social space. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > These aggregators will make 1.0 versions of aggregators look > > one > > > > > > > > dimensional. And they are. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Examples of 1.0 aggregators > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - bloglines > > > > > > > > - google newsreader > > > > > > > > - various software aggregators: itunes, fireant, miro, > > newsgator, > > > > > > > > netnewswire, vienna > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Examples of experiments in conversation tracking are > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - co.comments.com > > > > > > > > - cocomment.com > > > > > > > > - Megatite > > > > > > > > - Commentful, commentful.blogflux.com > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > And a couple of Meme trackers > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - megite.com > > > > > > > > - techmeme.com > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > There' probably a bunch I don't know about or am forgetting > > about. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I have yet to see a RSS / blog aggregator that also tracks > > users > > > > > > > > comments well. But there are a few out there who's names I > > can't > > > > > > > > remember yet. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I think the one web-service in this space that is best > > positioned to > > > > > > > > start tracking video comments and memes across the > > vlogosphere is > > > > > > > > mefeedia, but sadly though i've pushed and pushed it hasn't > > happened > > > > > > > > yet. Consider this another suggestion. (Disclaimer: I'm not > > longer a > > > > > > > > part of mefeedia.) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -Mike > > > > > > > > mmeiser.com/blog > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Jan 30, 2008 1:46 PM, Jay dedman <jay.dedman@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > for those of you using Wordpress, Davod Meade craeted a > > whole new > > > > > > > > > plugin for video comments: > > > > > > > > > http://www.davidmeade.com/wordpress-plugins#videoComments > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It seems works much better than what we were using Semanal: > > > > > > > > > > > http://semanal.org/2008/01/27/week-5-2008-video-commenting-is-live/ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The plugin adds some extra fields to the comment area. > > > > > > > > > The video comment then shows up as a clickable thumbnail > > and lays > > > > > > > > > inline if you also have vPIP installed. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > This is a good example of old fashioned team work. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Jay > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > > > > http://jaydedman.com > > > > > > > > > 917 371 6790 > > > > > > > > > Professional: http://ryanishungry.com > > > > > > > > > Personal: http://momentshowing.net > > > > > > > > > Photos: http://flickr.com/photos/jaydedman/ > > > > > > > > > Twitter: http://twitter.com/jaydedman > > > > > > > > > RSS: http://tinyurl.com/yqgdt9 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yahoo! 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