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Havent any idea what you guys' are taling about, but... I love it when the coders get all excited. :) Jan On Jan 31, 2008 7:22 AM, David Meade <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > It's included in wordpress feeds already. - but I dont think it is > in blogger feeds > > On Jan 31, 2008 1:12 AM, Mike Meiser <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Cool. > > > > Example of a comment feed reference from sull's blip feed: > > http://sull.blip.tv/rss > > > > <item> > > <guid isPermaLink="false">9856168E-BE0C-11DC-A000-B09E966E5011</guid> > > <link>http://blip.tv/file/586535</link> > > <title>What is it that's driving this?</title> > > [...] > > <wfw:commentRss> > http://blip.tv/comments/?attached_to=post592232&skin=rss > </wfw:commentRss> > > <comments>http://blip.tv/file/586535</comments> > > </item> > > > > wfw, as in <wfw:comments>, stands for "well formatted web" > > > > spec is as mentioned here: > http://wellformedweb.org/news/wfw_namespace_elements/ > > > > <comments> being part of the original RSS 2.0 spec. It appears to be > > the url to the page where you can make a comment. > > > > > > So... Basically we have the start of a potential working ecosystem. > > The next question is who else supports this? Wordpress? Blogger? > > Moveable type? Feedburner? > > > > If not already a part of Wordpress could it be implimented with a > > plugin or added to an existing plugin from SIAB or that which david > > meade just created? > > > > Will have to do more research. > > > > -Mike > > > > > > > > > > On Jan 31, 2008 12:16 AM, Sull <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > and i just checked blip feeds and... good on them ;) > > > it's in there. > > > > > > > > > On Jan 31, 2008 12:10 AM, Sull <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > For starters, their should be wide adoption of WFW - Well-Formed Web > > > > wfw:commentRss namespace element. > > > > > > > > http://wellformedweb.org/news/wfw_namespace_elements/ > > > > > > > > > http://www.sellsbrothers.com/spout/default.aspx?content=archive.htm#exposingRssComments > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Jan 30, 2008 10:56 PM, Mike Meiser <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It's not that complex though to track comments. > > > > > > > > > > You follow the permalink. > > > > > > > > > > You parse the page one time... you look for the comment RSS most > > > > > platforms have them now. You display all or part of the comments > in > > > > > the aggregator... maybe as trackbacks, you just take them into > > > > > account in the aggregator as ranking info, display them with the > other > > > > > comments and on site activity... maybe you simply say "8 more > comments > > > > > at joevlog.com". This last idea in particular is a personal > favorite > > > > > of mine because it simultaneously drives traffic back to the vlog > > > > > while adding value to the aggregator. > > > > > > > > > > There in fact may be packages / API's out by now on for tracking > blog > > > > > comments... there are certainly meta standards, at least one > > > > > documented micoformat for comments. > > > > > > > > > > There are of course potential partners. I've chatted with the > guys at > > > > > co.mments.com. They're huge potential for them to licensce their > > > > > technology. It actually makes much more sense then running a > single > > > > > webservice for them... because obviously mefeedia and other > > > > > specialized aggregatory communities don't compete directly or > even > > > > > indirectly. > > > > > > > > > > But... partnership is probably not necessary... because like i > said... > > > > > comments are very widely standardized around blogging packages > these > > > > > days. > > > > > > > > > > Of course.... there's still cooler things... there's tracking... > > > > > which posts/ blogs are linking in the content to which posts. > It's > > > > > meme tracking... like techmeme.com and megit.com. Tracking the > > > > > conversations in the vlogosphere. All that data is already in > > > > > mefeedia's DB... all that need be done is to process it. The > > > > > combination of these two types of tracking could light a fire > under > > > > > the vlogosphere.... and of course it's implied that it'd light a > fire > > > > > under the webservice that did such a thing just like it's done > for > > > > > companies like techmeme and dozens of others. > > > > > > > > > > What's more... it's organic unlike digg... and embraces an open > > > > > ecosystem unlike youtube. > > > > > > > > > > Peace, > > > > > > > > > > -Mike > > > > > mmeiser.com/blog > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Jan 30, 2008 9:44 PM, Frank Sinton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > We're working on putting technology in place - a new Video > Search > > > > > > Engine - that will hopefully enable the tracking of video > responses > > > > > > across vlogs. > > > > > > > > > > > > The problem is extremely complex as there are many variations > on > > > > > > formatting, blog post URLs, embedding, etc. It will be > interesting to > > > > > > do some small experiments such as apply the technology to a > "hot" > > > > > > conversation that becomes threaded / moves in many different > directions. > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > Frank > > > > > > > > > > > > http://www.mefeedia.com - Discover the Video Web > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In [email protected], "Mike Meiser" > > > > > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sweet work David, Jay and everyone who worked on it. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Now all we need is 3rd party services, i.e. aggregators and > meme > > > > > > > trackers to start tracking video comments as well as simply > RSS feeds. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > This has long been one of the biggest failings of > aggregators. it' > > > > > > > not just about the RSS... it's about the conversations at the > end of > > > > > > > the permalinks... AND it's about other bloggers and their > blog posts > > > > > > > referencing each other. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > As people such as David, Jay and the Show in the box team > build more > > > > > > > value into the comments hopefully others will stand up and > take > > > > > > > notice. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Conversation tracking, meme tracking, or social aggregation. > There are > > > > > > > many names and many approaches to exploring what is I > personally think > > > > > > > is a whole new frontier beyond the diggs, facebooks, twitters > and > > > > > > > myspaces into a much more organic and natural social space. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > These aggregators will make 1.0 versions of aggregators look > one > > > > > > > dimensional. And they are. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Examples of 1.0 aggregators > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - bloglines > > > > > > > - google newsreader > > > > > > > - various software aggregators: itunes, fireant, miro, > newsgator, > > > > > > > netnewswire, vienna > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Examples of experiments in conversation tracking are > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - co.comments.com > > > > > > > - cocomment.com > > > > > > > - Megatite > > > > > > > - Commentful, commentful.blogflux.com > > > > > > > > > > > > > > And a couple of Meme trackers > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - megite.com > > > > > > > - techmeme.com > > > > > > > > > > > > > > There' probably a bunch I don't know about or am forgetting > about. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I have yet to see a RSS / blog aggregator that also tracks > users > > > > > > > comments well. But there are a few out there who's names I > can't > > > > > > > remember yet. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I think the one web-service in this space that is best > positioned to > > > > > > > start tracking video comments and memes across the > vlogosphere is > > > > > > > mefeedia, but sadly though i've pushed and pushed it hasn't > happened > > > > > > > yet. Consider this another suggestion. (Disclaimer: I'm not > longer a > > > > > > > part of mefeedia.) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -Mike > > > > > > > mmeiser.com/blog > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Jan 30, 2008 1:46 PM, Jay dedman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > > for those of you using Wordpress, Davod Meade craeted a > whole new > > > > > > > > plugin for video comments: > > > > > > > > http://www.davidmeade.com/wordpress-plugins#videoComments > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It seems works much better than what we were using Semanal: > > > > > > > > > http://semanal.org/2008/01/27/week-5-2008-video-commenting-is-live/ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The plugin adds some extra fields to the comment area. > > > > > > > > The video comment then shows up as a clickable thumbnail > and lays > > > > > > > > inline if you also have vPIP installed. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > This is a good example of old fashioned team work. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Jay > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > > > http://jaydedman.com > > > > > > > > 917 371 6790 > > > > > > > > Professional: http://ryanishungry.com > > > > > > > > Personal: http://momentshowing.net > > > > > > > > Photos: http://flickr.com/photos/jaydedman/ > > > > > > > > Twitter: http://twitter.com/jaydedman > > > > > > > > RSS: http://tinyurl.com/yqgdt9 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > http://www.DavidMeade.com > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > -- The Faux Press - better than real http://feeds.feedburner.com/diaryofafauxjournalist - RSS http://fauxpress.blogspot.com aim=janofsound air=862.571.5334 skype=janmclaughlin [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
