Again I would not be so sure they will make them available for screening. For YEARS WB refused to allow theaters to project DVDS of films they had actually released on DVD. To be fair they will be no less helpful with 4K material than they are with 35MM with the notable execption of Universal.
On Mon, Sep 13, 2010 at 5:50 PM, Dennis Doros <milefi...@gmail.com> wrote: > Hmmm. They're doing at least 4K scans of some pretty obscure films > (Monogram's Charlie Chan's for example) off of archival prints so anything > is possible. Jessica, you're thinking film rental. They're thinking > preservation/streaming. If theaters want to rent a 4K scan, I suspect they > will be made available. Of course, I'm talking future Utopia, not > necessarily this year's programming. > > Dennis > > > On Mon, Sep 13, 2010 at 5:27 PM, Jessica Rosner > <jessicapros...@gmail.com>wrote: > >> Not holding my breath for studios to make 4K & 6K scans of anything but >> there top titles available while trashing the 35mm prints of everything. >> >> >> On Mon, Sep 13, 2010 at 4:54 PM, Dennis Doros <milefi...@gmail.com>wrote: >> >>> But a 4K or 6K scan off of Technicolor 3-strip negatives with proper >>> color balance and digital correction for registration can look absolutely >>> stunning! I know it's not at colleges now (though I think Indiana U and a >>> few others do have it) and I know that by the time that becomes commonplace >>> the technology will have changed again and it'll be more wasted dollars, but >>> at some point, the future will catch up with the technology and bad prints >>> will be a thing of the past. And of course, such as the Warner DVD-R >>> library, you'll be able to get a lot more obscure films to view. I'm very >>> sad about the "death" of 35mm as well, but there will be advantages such as >>> no more bad sprockets, scratched prints, and the cost of shipping 100 lb. >>> prints in dented and warped containers. >>> >>> Did anyone read the NY Times today? >>> >>> Here<http://www.nytimes.com/2010/09/13/technology/13wifi.html?ref=technology>and >>> here<http://www.nytimes.com/2010/09/13/technology/13broadband.html?_r=1&ref=todayspaper>. >>> My HD files for I AM CUBA (a 141-minute film) is about 200 gigabytes at most >>> so a 4K scan is probably about 4 terabytes. At a gigabyte per second, it >>> wouldn't take long to send it over home lines. Much less than three or four >>> days by Fed Ex and a hell of a lot cheaper. >>> >>> Dennis >>> >>> >>> >>> On Mon, Sep 13, 2010 at 2:33 PM, Steffen, James M <jste...@emory.edu>wrote: >>> >>>> Call me old-fashioned, but there isn't very much magic in watching a DVD >>>> blown up on a big screen. >>>> >>>> --James >>>> >>>> -- >>>> James M. Steffen, PhD >>>> Film and Media Studies Librarian >>>> Theater, Dance, ILA/IDS and LGBT Subject Liaison >>>> Marian K. Heilbrun Music and Media Library >>>> Emory University >>>> 540 Asbury Circle >>>> Atlanta, GA 30322-2870 >>>> Phone: (404) 727-8107 >>>> FAX: (404) 727-2257 >>>> Email: jste...@emory.edu >>>> >>>> ------------------------------ >>>> >>>> Message: 4 >>>> Date: Mon, 13 Sep 2010 11:54:38 -0400 >>>> From: Jessica Rosner <jessicapros...@gmail.com> >>>> Subject: Re: [Videolib] thanks for all the help with my Swank >>>> question! >>>> To: videolib@lists.berkeley.edu >>>> Message-ID: >>>> <aanlkti=vgy_jxepexyij=7qqb8wyt4hxp0ybz3a1_...@mail.gmail.com> >>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" >>>> >>>> I would not bet on the Swank salesperson being a big film buff. Things >>>> might >>>> have changed over the year, but that certainly was not their reputation >>>> in >>>> the past. My favorite of all Swank stories involved a school that had >>>> ordered a 35mm print of classic film for which a studio had done a major >>>> reissue just about a year before. It was not a small reissue and I would >>>> bet >>>> several dozen new/restored prints were made. The programmer reminded the >>>> Swank booker to MAKE sure they got one the new prints as the "old" ones >>>> were >>>> known to be horrid. The day of the show the print arrived, it was red, >>>> splicy, and very beat up. It was clearly a decades old print. The irate >>>> programmer called up the Swank booker to complain as we could not even >>>> show >>>> the print. The Swank booker looked up the title in the Maltin TV/Movie >>>> book >>>> and pronounced " The film is 50 years old. What did you expect?" >>>> Apparently >>>> they had no concept a NEW print of a 50 year old film. >>>> >>>> On Mon, Sep 13, 2010 at 11:16 AM, Dennis Doros <milefi...@gmail.com> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > On Mon, Sep 13, 2010 at 10:59 AM, Maureen Tripp < >>>> maureen_tr...@emerson.edu >>>> > > wrote: >>>> > >>>> >> As Sandra Jackson said, it seems it depends a lot on the film, >>>> anticipated >>>> >> audience size, and other factors--but I now have a ballpark range of >>>> >> estimates--I appreciate it, everyone! >>>> >> >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > I should also mention that it depends a lot on how well you get along >>>> with >>>> > the salesperson at the company. Most of us are in the business because >>>> we >>>> > love films. If you discuss favorite films (and books and museums) and >>>> what's >>>> > out that week and how's the family, you'll do well. If somebody comes >>>> and >>>> > complains that they are non-profit and we should treat them better, >>>> they >>>> > don't get as good a break. The retired Edith Kramer at the Pacific >>>> Film >>>> > Archive is a legend in this regard. She would spend two or three hours >>>> on >>>> > the phone charming the salesperson until she got the rate she could >>>> afford. >>>> > Funny thing is -- we had the same automatic friends rate for her for >>>> twenty >>>> > years and she still would spend an hour with us. One of our favorite >>>> > customers. >>>> > >>>> > -- >>>> > Best, >>>> > Dennis Doros >>>> > Milestone Film & Video/Milliarium Zero >>>> > PO Box 128 >>>> > Harrington Park, NJ 07640 >>>> > Phone: 201-767-3117 >>>> > Fax: 201-767-3035 >>>> > email: milefi...@gmail.com >>>> > www.milestonefilms.com >>>> > www.ontheboweryfilm.com >>>> > www.arayafilm.com >>>> > www.exilesfilm.com >>>> > www.wordisoutmovie.com >>>> > www.killerofsheep.com >>>> > AMIA Philadelphia 2010: www.amianet.org >>>> > Join "Milestone Film" on Facebook! >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of >>>> issues >>>> > relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic >>>> control, >>>> > preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in >>>> libraries and >>>> > related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as an >>>> effective >>>> > working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of >>>> communication >>>> > between libraries,educational institutions, and video producers and >>>> > distributors. >>>> > >>>> > >>>> -------------- next part -------------- >>>> An HTML attachment scrubbed and removed. >>>> HTML attachments are only available in MIME digests. >>>> >>>> ------------------------------ >>>> >>>> Message: 5 >>>> Date: Mon, 13 Sep 2010 12:50:29 -0500 >>>> From: Rudy Leon <rudy.l...@gmail.com> >>>> Subject: [Videolib] Duplicate copies? >>>> To: videolib <videolib@lists.berkeley.edu> >>>> Message-ID: >>>> <aanlktinnmmyu5ndteynjmrjhu0gjmcqtnpv7m-a2y...@mail.gmail.com> >>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" >>>> >>>> I am trying to develop an unofficial policy for when duplication of >>>> materials is a good idea. (We do not, in general, order duplicate copies >>>> of >>>> any materials) Do you order duplicate copies of films? Under what >>>> circumstances? >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Rudy Leon >>>> Learning Commons Librarian >>>> Undergraduate Library >>>> University of Illinois Urbana-Champaign >>>> (217) 333-3503 >>>> http://www.deepening.wordpress.com >>>> AIM: rudibrarian >>>> -------------- next part -------------- >>>> An HTML attachment scrubbed and removed. >>>> HTML attachments are only available in MIME digests. >>>> >>>> ------------------------------ >>>> >>>> Message: 6 >>>> Date: Mon, 13 Sep 2010 14:15:00 -0400 >>>> From: "Ball, James (jmb4aw)" <jmb...@eservices.virginia.edu> >>>> Subject: Re: [Videolib] Duplicate copies? >>>> To: "videolib@lists.berkeley.edu" <videolib@lists.berkeley.edu> >>>> Message-ID: >>>> < >>>> b0123513fa2c9044b01d2aa5f48bb3261454f59...@mcclane.eservices.virginia.edu >>>> > >>>> >>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" >>>> >>>> Hi Rudy, >>>> >>>> A cornerstone of our collection development policy is that we're here to >>>> support curricular needs and if I need to purchase multiple copies to do >>>> that then I do, though usually this is just for reserves (for example, if >>>> the class that's using a title is really large or if there's more than one >>>> class using it). We don't really have any kind of formula, though. I'd be >>>> interested it hear if others do. >>>> >>>> Also, if a faculty member needs a title that's checked out by someone >>>> else and we're having a hard time getting it back then I'll sometimes just >>>> go ahead and buy another copy depending on how much it costs. >>>> >>>> I don't purchase multiple copies, however, just because the title is >>>> popular for recreational viewing (okay, sometimes I do, but don't tell >>>> anyone) so I'm sometimes in the position of reminding users that our >>>> purpose >>>> is to support curricular needs, and I encourage them to check with our >>>> local >>>> video store (that's only ? mile away) or an online video store. >>>> >>>> Cheers, >>>> >>>> Matt >>>> >>>> ________________________________________ >>>> >>>> Matt Ball >>>> Media and Collections Librarian >>>> University of Virginia >>>> Charlottesville, VA 22904 >>>> mattb...@virginia.edu< >>>> https://mail.eservices.virginia.edu/owa/redir.aspx?C=62fe60f092584617be4c37bdfc2dcf42&URL=mailto%3amattball%40virginia.edu> >>>> | 434-924-3812 >>>> >>>> From: videolib-boun...@lists.berkeley.edu [mailto: >>>> videolib-boun...@lists.berkeley.edu] On Behalf Of Rudy Leon >>>> Sent: Monday, September 13, 2010 1:50 PM >>>> To: videolib >>>> Subject: [Videolib] Duplicate copies? >>>> >>>> I am trying to develop an unofficial policy for when duplication of >>>> materials is a good idea. (We do not, in general, order duplicate copies of >>>> any materials) Do you order duplicate copies of films? Under what >>>> circumstances? >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Rudy Leon >>>> Learning Commons Librarian >>>> Undergraduate Library >>>> University of Illinois Urbana-Champaign >>>> (217) 333-3503 >>>> http://www.deepening.wordpress.com >>>> AIM: rudibrarian >>>> -------------- next part -------------- >>>> An HTML attachment scrubbed and removed. >>>> HTML attachments are only available in MIME digests. >>>> >>>> End of videolib Digest, Vol 34, Issue 50 >>>> **************************************** >>>> >>>> This e-mail message (including any attachments) is for the sole use of >>>> the intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential and privileged >>>> information. 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It is hoped that the list will serve as >>>> an effective working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of >>>> communication between libraries,educational institutions, and video >>>> producers and distributors. >>>> >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Best, >>> Dennis Doros >>> Milestone Film & Video/Milliarium Zero >>> PO Box 128 >>> Harrington Park, NJ 07640 >>> Phone: 201-767-3117 >>> Fax: 201-767-3035 >>> email: milefi...@gmail.com >>> www.milestonefilms.com >>> www.ontheboweryfilm.com >>> www.arayafilm.com >>> www.exilesfilm.com >>> www.wordisoutmovie.com >>> www.killerofsheep.com >>> AMIA Philadelphia 2010: www.amianet.org >>> Join "Milestone Film" on Facebook! >>> >>> >>> VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of >>> issues relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic >>> control, preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in >>> libraries and related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as >>> an effective working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of >>> communication between libraries,educational institutions, and video >>> producers and distributors. >>> >>> >> >> VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of >> issues relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic >> control, preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in >> libraries and related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as >> an effective working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of >> communication between libraries,educational institutions, and video >> producers and distributors. >> >> > > > -- > Best, > Dennis Doros > Milestone Film & Video/Milliarium Zero > PO Box 128 > Harrington Park, NJ 07640 > Phone: 201-767-3117 > Fax: 201-767-3035 > email: milefi...@gmail.com > www.milestonefilms.com > www.ontheboweryfilm.com > www.arayafilm.com > www.exilesfilm.com > www.wordisoutmovie.com > www.killerofsheep.com > AMIA Philadelphia 2010: www.amianet.org > Join "Milestone Film" on Facebook! > > > VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of issues > relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic control, > preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in libraries and > related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as an effective > working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of communication > between libraries,educational institutions, and video producers and > distributors. > >
VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of issues relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic control, preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in libraries and related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as an effective working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of communication between libraries,educational institutions, and video producers and distributors.
