Thank you Lex, Yes the intro certainly has a good alfabeto list with variants - I'm not sure how much these are Marini's or those of a jobbing guitarist's brought in to add the alfabeto.
Re the a due voci pieces with no alfabeto, I've just looked and they're not especially difficult to set chords to so I doubt if it's this that's the reason some of them dopn't have alfabeto. But you may be right about the timing of pieces added to the collection - maybe it's no more complicated than there just wasn't time to set the alfabeto and the publisher wished to get the work out quickly. As far as I can see the printer, Anteo Viotti does not seem to have published many musical works so maybe this was also lack of expertise. Look at the list of printed music with lute, theorbo and guitar in [1]http://www.library.appstate.edu/music/lute/continuo.html rgds M From: Lex Eisenhardt <eisenha...@planet.nl> Subject: [VIHUELA] Re: Grenerin To: "Vihuelalist" <vihuela@cs.dartmouth.edu>, "Martyn Hodgson" <hodgsonmar...@yahoo.co.uk> Date: Wednesday, 20 April, 2011, 14:04 Marini's familiarity with alfabeto is clearly shown in his introduction to the 1622 collection. He has introduced a number of cadences with 4-3 suspensions, such as .A. A B etc. We find these again in the songs. The preface speaks of the intent of 'il autore', and it seems clear that Marini wanted to use the guitar for accompaniment, and use his new alfabeto cadences. The reason for some songs not having alfabeto could be that this is his first collection with guitar. The type of songs is not very different from the ones in his collection of 1620, in which there is no alfabeto. There are a number of anthologies of other composers in which only part of the songs have alfabeto. Often it were the 'most appropriate' (simpler) songs that were inscribed with guitar chords. That could as well be the case here, I have not looked. best, Lex > Dear Lex, > > Thank you for this, I thought you were speaking about the 1622 > collection (that's what it says below) not Op 22. While not necessarily > disagreeing with you that Marini may have been the person who added the > alfabeto signs for the printer to set 1622 - how do we know this? > > Yes - the Cm chord in the open position (indicated by an * rather than > G3 or even the passing dissonant L) is nice. Note that later in the bar > it lies over an ascending D in the bass (incidentally he doesn't use L > here) - yet again showing that these sort of passing dissonances were > (and are) perfectly acceptable and, in my view, add to the harmonic > spice of the music. > > Indeed the guitar would probably be tacet in the ritornelli - I thought > I'd indicated this. > > Finally you'll have noted that some of the pieces 'A due voci' don't > have alfabeto: I have no idea why some do and others don't. > > rgds > > M To get on or off this list see list information at [2]http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html -- References 1. http://www.library.appstate.edu/music/lute/continuo.html 2. http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html