On 7/10/06, Sean Reifschneider <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
On Mon, Jul 10, 2006 at 07:56:13PM +0300, Yakov Lerner wrote:
>Vim is special. I believe that being organic extension of
>programmer/sysadmin fingers, it deserves special attitude
>that other packages.

By refusing to build vim from sources you totally close the door
for some patch being developed (and included) based on your
requirement. Because (1) such patch must first be picked and tested by
the person for whom it is made (2) it might be an optional feature
which your packager decide to turn off. In which case you never see the
feature even if it was included into the vim spcifically for you. So it's
not going to happen.

I already understand you unacceptance of personal builds.
You justify it by "it doesn't help many users". Maybe. Maybe it's so.
My experience is different. Some users use pico, some used "visual
slick edit", some use nvi. Not everybody use vim to the same depth.

I can probably
find someone on the developers list for the vast majority of those other
1200 packages who says exactly the same thing about that package.

You're right that it's not sysadmin's job to compile things. It's developer's
jobs. And developers are accustomed to this.

The point that is confused, or missed here, is as follows:
The developer who has a problem with package X will *not* ask *you*
to build package X. (He might ask you to find the fixed binary package.
Or he'll build X from the sources himself (Under his $HOME).
I'm absolutely not missing this point. Being a developer and having
built myself 50% of various software I was using on Linux.)

Pretending that developer Y who has specific problem with package X
will demand that you, the sysadmin, will build X for him, is
intentionally fogging the things. He will never demand that sysadmin
build a package for him. (It's developer's job to build things, again. And
of course, truth being "it's developer's job to build things" serves you as
justification for your refusal to build things, including vim, at which point,
I'm convinced, you make error :-) )

Yakov

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