Dominique Pelle wrote:

> Bram Moolenaar wrote:
> 
> > Markus Heidelberg wrote:
> >
> >> during some discussion with an Arch Linux user about the Arch Vim
> >> package, we noticed the following:
> >>
> >> These files have been removed from the vim tarballs in June/July 2008,
> >> but are still present on the ftp server and should be removed:
> >> Â  /usr/share/vim/vim72/keymap/bulgarian.vim
> >> Â  /usr/share/vim/vim72/tutor/README.gr.cp737.txt
> >> Â  /usr/share/vim/vim72/tutor/README.gr.txt
> >> Â  /usr/share/vim/vim72/tutor/tutor.gr
> >> Â  /usr/share/vim/vim72/tutor/tutor.gr.cp737
> >> Â  /usr/share/vim/vim72/tutor/tutor.gr.utf-8
> >
> > I'll delete them.
> >
> >> runtime/tutor/tutor.eo is not in any tarball yet, but on the ftp server.
> >> But it's not listed in getunix.aap/getdos.aap. Because the official Arch
> >> Vim package uses getunix.aap, tutor.eo is now missing in the
> >> distribution. Should be added to these two file lists.
> >
> > There currently is no tutor.eo file. Â Well, we could make a tutor.eo in
> > latin-3. Â Latin-1 does not work, thus people using latin-1 encoding will
> > see tutor.eo with a few wrong characters. Â Not sure if this is better
> > than not having a tutor.eo file.
> 
> 
> I only created the utf-8 versions of the Esperanto translation
> to keep things simple.
> 
> I think nobody uses latin3 code page anymore for Esperanto.
> But if there is a need, we could add the file(s) in latin3.

The advantage is that it's easy to create from the utf-8 version with
iconv.

> Latin1 cannot encode the accentuated letters, but it would be
> possible to transliterate the Esperanto accentuated letters
> (ĉ -> cx, Ä  -> gx, etc) and thus use latin1.  However, it would
> require to maintain the translation utf-8 and latin1 separately
> (transforming automatically would break some alignments).

Manual maintenance is probably not worth it.

> So to sum up, 3 possibilities:
> 
> 1/ only utf-8 Esperanto files (as currently)
> 2/ utf-8 + latin3
> 3/ utf-8 + latin1 after transliterating ĉ -> cx, Ä  -> gx, etc.
> 
> I prefer 1/ for simplicity but I'm fine with 2/ or 3/ as well
> if you think it's worth.

We can go with 2/.  The only worry I have is that this is an 8-bit
encoding, it can't be detected automatically.  Thus people having 'enc'
set at latin1 will see the wrong characters.  Is that better than
getting an error message?

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