Hi Shane!

On Sa, 22 Jun 2013, Shane Thornton wrote:

> On Saturday, June 22, 2013 12:55:29 AM UTC-7, Christian Brabandt wrote:
> > Hi Shane!
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > On Fr, 21 Jun 2013, Shane Thornton wrote:
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > > On Friday, June 21, 2013 7:45:26 AM UTC-7, Shane Thornton wrote:
> > 
> > > > If you type ":h z" and get to the commands starting with z there is
> > 
> > > > zH/zL missing from the list there. :)
> > 
> > > 
> > 
> > > If I put my cursor on the C in that first sentence, then try to
> > 
> > > navigate to the <space> before "noticed" by using only the 'tn' or ';'
> > 
> > > command I am unable to do so. The cursor will get caught at the
> > 
> > > <space> before "new". However, if I do the same thing using 'fn' and
> > 
> > > ';' I have no issues, except the cursor is on "n" in noticed. It does
> > 
> > > work with the number modifier, but it would be better without using
> > 
> > > them, and just tapping ';' to get there if I'm editing fast and don't
> > 
> > > want to count characters. This is helpful when till-tapping over to
> > 
> > > somewhere, then hitting 'v' for visual mode, then till-tapping over to
> > 
> > > the end letter and using an operator for the selection. With Vim's
> > 
> > > current behavior that is not possible, and although I understand it
> > 
> > > would change something, I think it would change it in a way that it
> > 
> > > would fix existing issues and not interrupt anyone's expectations of
> > 
> > > how the program should behave, it would instead just make it behave it
> > 
> > > a way that one would expect.
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > What is your vim version? I made a patch, that changes it. I think you 
> > 
> > need 7.3.235 to have this work.
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > > The idea of using n/N instead of ;/, is probably a little over the
> > 
> > > top, but the above idea and making it multiline I think would hurt
> > 
> > > anyone.
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > I made the ft_improved plugin to make f and t work multiline.
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > regards,
> > 
> > Christian
> > 
> > -- 
> > 
> > Die Ehe ist eine sehr gute Institution, aber ich bin nicht reif f�r
> > 
> > eine Institution.
> > 
> >             -- Mae West
> 
> I am experiences some issues using both plugins, ft_improved and fanfingtastic
> for getting t/f commands to be multiline. I'm using version 7.3.829. For
> example, on the following text below, if I put my cursor on the ["] and try 
> t/f
> on "o" it does nothing. However, if I try to get to g, it does jump.  Other
> times, if I use the t command it will put the cursor on top of the letter
> itself. The behavior is very sporadic. It would be nice to have this fixed 
> once
> and for all to include an ability inside Vim itself to be maintained.
> 
> " Main options.
> :set nocompatible
> :au GUIEnter * simalt ~x
> :syntax on
> :set backspace=2
> :set number
> :set guioptions-=T "disable toolbar
> :set guioptions-=m "disable menu
> :set mouse=a

I can't reproduce it. Which version of ft_improved did you use?. (Make 
sure you tried with the github version).

putting the cursor on the first char of line 1 and using fo or to puts 
it on the expected char.

Here was my test. (your sample was put in the file testfile1.vim):
vim -u NONE -U NONE -N -c 'so ~/.vim/plugin/ft_improved.vim' -c ':norm dto'
-c 'wq'

leaves you with this file:

----------------------------
options.
:set nocompatible
:au GUIEnter * simalt ~x
:syntax on
:set backspace=2
:set number
:set guioptions-=T "disable toolbar
:set guioptions-=m "disable menu
:set mouse=a
----------------------------

Is this what you expect?

PS: You might want to open an issue at the github page for the plugin:
https://github.com/chrisbra/improvedft

so I can track it better.

regards,
Christian.
-- 
Jemand, der immer lustig ist, ist was Unerträgliches.
                -- Loriot (eigentlich Vicco von Bülow)

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