Hi all, On Thu, Dec 31, at 10:51 Felipe Contreras wrote: > On Thu, Dec 31, 2020 at 2:34 AM Christian Brabandt <[email protected]> wrote: > > On Mi, 30 Dez 2020, Felipe Contreras wrote: > > > > On Wed, Dec 30, 2020 at 4:33 PM Yegappan Lakshmanan <[email protected]> > > > wrote: > > > > On Wed, Dec 30, 2020 at 2:01 PM Felipe Contreras > > > > <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > >> There are some credits, for some of the contributions, of some of the > > > >> contributors. Not all, not even most. > > > > > > > > I have contributed many patches in the past 20 years to Vim. When Bram > > > > sends out a patch, he includes the name of the author in the patch > > > > header. Also, when someone reports a problem, Bram includes their > > > > name in the patch. > > > > > > That doesn't include the authors that contribute to the runtime. > > > > As has been pointed out, runtime files are different. > > This is the naturalistic fallacy again.
Hi Felipe, I'm following these lists since my BLFS days, at 2006-2010, and i was a flucky active participant in these legendary mailing lists, for those same years, until the situationism decided differently for the future. But i'm still following them, though i had developed my own vim mini clone. So, I know most of the people, by now. I remember Christian when we (probably) first came. He might not remember me, but i do. It was about digraphs and fetching/updating the unicode data on the fly. Since then, he became a master in C and in software development workflow. I Know Tony who is from Belgium, and a developer at days, that you probably wasn't around in earth, and me a baby. He likes to study natural languages and he cares a lot about Bram. In fact we all love Bram. He is our Bram. He, long ago before git, had developed a routinary patch workflow: Patch 8.2.2249 Problem: Termcodes test is flaky when used over ssh with X forwarding. Solution: Set 'mousetime' to a larger value. (Dominique Pellé, closes #7576, closes #7563) This is the exact same (almost boring) routine since i remember. I might saw all these years, thousands of them. I can not know how many, but many. But yes, you've a right. This kind of tracking development, doesn't offer a way to extract automatically the information, you are seeking for. But it is there! and can be extracted easily. In fact it seems like a nice cool idea, to gather all this information and to give a proper summary of attributions. We all like attributions to our contributions, especially in famous projects like vim or zsh :-). At least i do!!! :-) I know it is an utterly fallacy, but it makes me feel warm. But what can we do? We are common humans, and we like to feel important. Even hardcore natural punks like yours trully. And Buddha!, there are so many to thanks here in this quite long history (thirty years) of development. The quite nice thing about this development model, is that the attributions, are hardcoded direct into the sources, so they will stay forever. Though i recognize that git will probably stay forever too, and yes is much easier to track development. But what i really wanted to say to you, is that we love Bram! He contributed uncountable (probably millions) lines of code, he fixed uncountable bugs, he participated in uncountable exchanges in the mailing lists. Please, grep in the archives, with something like: "([A-Z][a-z]*:.*\n)*^$\nThanks.\n" and watch a quite long output of his appreciation to the contributors! But even if something has been changed in these modern git days, probably it is because of the different development workflow, which happens now in GH, instead of the development list. If it is so, please don't hesitate to ask him, with the exact same way you ask something from your father, as he is a gentle by nature listener. That's the whole trueth. So please understand. May you all be healthy. Probably is wise also to wish for a rather boring and without too many excitements year, really. We've still a long road to walk, but we can see clearly the ocean now. We just have to believe in ourselves, so we can walk this path with pride. Regards, ag -- -- You received this message from the "vim_dev" maillist. Do not top-post! Type your reply below the text you are replying to. For more information, visit http://www.vim.org/maillist.php --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "vim_dev" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/vim_dev/20201231215309.GC7149%40CHATZ.
