On 2010/8/4 17:05, Boyko Bantchev wrote:
On 3 August 2010 21:54, H Xu<[email protected]>  wrote:
Many people quit using vim because they think vim is not as powerful as
emacs.  However, mostly this is because they don't install vim plugins.
The way you put it already places Vim in an inferior position w.r.t.
Emacs.  As if something must be done to catch up with Emacs.
I see the power of Vim not in the availability of many plug-ins that
one could add to it, nor even in the fact that it is easy for most
people to write their own plug-ins.  The power that I value lies in
the economy of editing labour that the plain Vim makes possible in my
everyday work.  Vim does such a great job precisely in manipulating text.

Being able to run a debugger, or view LaTeX's output etc., all within
the editor, which is Emacs's strength, is of little value to me. Emacs
is nowhere near Vim in terms of editing power.  No other editor is.

I am saying all this because I believe many other Vim users share
the same attitude.  The point being that, if one likes doing things
the way they can be done with Vim, (s)he will stay with Vim regardless
of whether a plug-in for some particular task is present or even
possible.

Best regards,
     Boyko

Hello Boyko Bantchev,

You said Emacs' ability to run a debugger within the editor does no good
for you, and Emacs' editing power is weaker than vim, so you choose vim.
Yes, I also have the same feelings, but this is your situation.

For some people, they need a better debug environment, or something else
which Emacs can do without extra plugins, but vim can do only when
equipping extra plugins. For these people, they may be confused if they
have not used the two editors before, they may think that vim doesn't have
such features just because they haven't install the plugins they need, that
is, we may say, they even don't know vim has plugins.  As a result, some of
them choose Emacs.



Regards,
Hong Xu
2010/8/4

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