Are you going through a hub? ________________________________ From: Quadet <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Sent: Saturday, November 16, 2013 7:38 PM Subject: Re: Getting files off of a Quadra 700
Rats. Still no luck. On the Mac Mini, I set the IP address to 10.0.0.1. On the Quadra, I set the IP address to 10.0.0.2 in MacTCP (but it changed it to 10.0.0.33 for some reason). In MacTCP I had to choose a Class A IP address - is that correct? Also, it gave me a choice of "EtherTalk (0)" and "Ethernet". Neither seemed to work but I don't understand what the difference is and didn't pay close attention to which I was choosing. The green LED on the transceiver lit up and the orange LED would flicker occasionally but not in response to me trying to ping it from my Mini. And ping always timed out. At this point I guess my options are: 1. Upgrade the Quadra to 7.5.3. I'm reluctant to do this because if the installation goes wrong I may not be able to get it to boot at all. Then I'd really be stuck. 2. Buy a SCSI to USB adapter cable. The ones I've found seem to be designed to allow old SCSI peripherals to be connected to new computers via the new computer's USB port. I don't think using it in reverse to connect a new USB memory stick to an old computer would work but maybe someone knows otherwise. 3. Buy a memory card reader that has a SCSI interface. I'm worried the Quadra wouldn't have the drivers needed to talk to such a device. Plus, they're pretty expensive as others have already noted. 4. Buy a 1.44MB floppy disk peripheral with a USB connector. These are cheap in comparison. It would mean *laboriously* moving files off of my Quadra one at a time. I'm still puzzled why ethernet can't be made to work under 7.1. This link makes it sound like people have gotten it to work: http://www.applefool.com/se30/ Actually I guess the other option is to get a switch/hub and take the crossover cable out of the configuration - I think I'll try that next. Any other suggestions would be very welcome! Thanks. On Friday, November 15, 2013 5:59:09 AM UTC-5, Jonathan Morton wrote: >On 15 Nov, 2013, at 10:32 am, Gregg Eshelman wrote: > >> It would be *possible* to create a NuBus USB card, but nobody, not even some >> lone genius hacker, has ever bothered to do so. [...] >> >> What really surprised me was the "Eh, whatever." attitude the entire >> Macintosh industry had toward supporting USB 2.0 on Mac OS 9. They just flat >> out refused to even consider working on it, not even with offers of money >> for the drivers. Nor would the open source freeware community. They just >> preferred to sit there grumping about nobody writing USB 2.0 drivers for OS >> 9. > >A major reason for that is that driving USB host hardware is actually pretty >complicated. I don't even pretend to understand most of what's required, and >I'm the sort of "lone genius hacker" who might potentially be interested in >such a project. I'm sure everyone remembers the Win98 demo where BillG >plugged a USB scanner in and promptly got a BSOD. > >USB 2.0 support on MacOS 9 would have been especially low priority because all >USB 2.0 hardware works just fine if you drive it as USB 1.1 hardware - just >about 40 times slower, ie. at USB 1.1 speeds. Typically a Mac has OHCI >controllers for USB 1.1, and *if* it is USB 2.0 hardware, there is also an >EHCI controller which takes care of that part. If you already have OHCI >drivers, you have working hardware - and experience would have shown >manufacturers that writing robust OHCI drivers was quite hard enough thank >you. > >(NB: I have one PC on which I've had to disable the EHCI controller because >the USB hardware is unstable at USB 2.0 speeds. As far as the OS is >concerned, only the USB 1.1 controller exists, and that's fine.) > >At this point, the easiest way to get a USB controller onto a NuBus card is to >graft a NuBus connector onto a Raspberry Pi or something, run a proper modern >OS on it (Linux) that already understands all the fiddly bits of USB, and then >have it emulate a 5380 chip and present the USB disks as being on a SCSI bus. >Even then, you probably have to build glue logic to ensure the R-Pi can talk >NuBus properly - possibly even using a real 5380 and having the R-Pi just >bit-bash SCSI on its GPIO pins, at which point you don't actually need to put >it on a NuBus card any more, just attach it to the main SCSI bus. > > - Jonathan Morton > > -- -- ----- You received this message because you are a member of the Vintage Macs group. 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