> Marco van de Voort wrote: > >>Anywho both netbsd and debian claim full support for a bog standard si > >>with no mention of MMU. > > > > IIsi a plain 030 IIRC. > > > > I myself used a IIci, but am now struggling to get a Quadra 840AV going. > > (rulez, 040/40, I'm into 68k macs because of the cheap 68k, am no maccer) > > > > The IIci killed too many harddisks. > > Whats the problem with the 840? I'll take a guess and say the ethernet > with netbsd?
Getting MacOS on it. But I suspect hardware trouble. I get sad macs 3 out of 4 times, or the screen clears, but the mouse can't move. While the ethernet is unsupported on the site, it is in fact supported. The NetBSD site is terribly old, but development did move on. There is even experimental DMA support, which really would boost disc-throughput. And that's what I need, since I mainly use it for compiling/testing. > You might try the Max list for either if you need pointers. Helpful but > quite bunch over there. The problem is that I just got the thing, and am not entirely sure about the components I put in either. So there are simply too many variables. I'll try to get in touch with some 68k or mac user around here. (Eindhoven, NL), which would eliminate the disc problem. (Btw Did somebody experiment with dd'ing Mac HDs? So - setting up a working 7.x MacOs. - dd it to an image on a PC. - dd it back to a different HD - put it back in the vintage mac. I'm not a mac'er, and don't have G3's with MacOS <n> lying around to get the MacOS install process going) > I favor Debian and have had no real software problems, the hard drive > sounds like a old manual typewriter other than that it works. I've a 6 Gb baby lying around, and 4x16 MB (and 2x32MB I'm not 100% sure about). I'm working on the FPC project (www.freepascal.org), which tries to build a TP and Delphi compatible compiler. Actually we already have, but the new PPC and m68k cg's opened the way to mac. > The extra 15mhz would make a difference. I'm using a centris 650, big > improvemnt over the quadra 700. With an accelerator, the IIci was workable speedwise (though more speed never hurts if you have to stuff 100 MB code through a compiler several times a hour when debugging, even with a XP2000+ as main building machine) At 25MHz it was pure pain though. 50MHz 030 and 33Mhz040 was workable. The 040 was notably faster than the 030, (but that's logical since the 030 can't take advantage of the higher external speed because of the motherboard castrating it to 25Mhz too) The problem with the IIci was the machine's stability, the large expense to go from 32MB to 128MB, the speed was less of a problem. -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by <http://lowendmac.com/> and... Small Dog Electronics http://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac <http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html> Vintage Macs list info: <http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml> --> AOL users, remove "mailto:"; Send list messages to: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To unsubscribe, email: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> For digest mode, email: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subscription questions: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Archive: <http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/> Using a Mac? Free email & more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
