I will check the thrust bearing out. Thank you for the info.

Eric 
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: marc vellat<mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
  To: Air-Cooled Volkswagen Discussion List<mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
  Sent: Friday, April 13, 2007 2:01 PM
  Subject: Re: [vintagvw] 1600 Flywheel gasket Needed


  With the O-ring there's no need for a gasket. Perhaps
  they were unable to achieve sufficient endplay without
  one (using three of the thinnest shims, which are
  .24mm (~.0095") thick - there's really no harm in
  using only two shims, but "three and only three" is
  entrenched dogma). The "right" way to deal with this
  situation is to have a few thousandths machined off of
  the flywheel's thrust surface rather than adding a
  gasket.

  Ideal endplay would be between .004" and .006". You
  need to verify that the thrust bearing is not moving
  in the case before attempting to reduce yours. Say it
  was originally .005" and is now .009", that would mean
  the bearing is walking by .004" - if you reshimmed it
  to get .005" again, there would actually only be .001"
  between the moving parts and in all likelihood it
  would seize in short order.
  Have a helper clunk the crank back & forth HARD while
  you observe the thrust bearing for movement. Placing
  your fingertips so they touch both the case and the
  bearing flange may enable you to detect movement that
  you can't discern by eye. If the bearing IS moving,
  leave the endplay where it was (.008-.009"). It'll
  only get worse over time, of course, but an H5 case is
  a piece of crap that should never have been used in
  the first place so you aren't risking much.

  --- Eric Larson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]<mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> wrote:

  > Now I confused. My case is an H 5761652, it was
  > remanufactured in 1991 by ECI. The 200mm flywheel
  > has an o-ring but also had a paper gasket around the
  > dowels. Do I really need that paper one? I figured
  > if it had it, it needed it. 
  > 
  > I'm also trying to check the end play. Not having
  > the paper is going to change the reading right? It
  > was at .008-.009 before. Now, with no paper, there
  > isn't any endplay. Should I get smaller shims or get
  > a gasket? 
  > 
  > Thanks, Eric
  > 
  >   ----- Original Message ----- 
  >   From: marc vellat<mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]<mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> 
  >   To: Air-Cooled Volkswagen Discussion
  > List<mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]<mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> 
  >   Sent: Friday, April 13, 2007 12:59 AM
  >   Subject: Re: [vintagvw] 1600 Flywheel gasket
  > Needed
  > 
  > 
  >   First, are you sure you really need one?
  >   In mid`66 VW switched from a gasket to seal the
  > crank
  >   and the flywheel to an O-ring setup. The clutch
  >   diameter is irrelevant here, both the 180 and
  > 200mm
  >   clutch size flywheels were made in O-ring and
  > gasket
  >   style. If you have the "late" (O-ring) flywheel &
  >   crank, no gasket is needed; with the early-style a
  >   metal gasket is preferable to the paper one. I'll
  > be
  >   happy to mail you either/both gasket(s) IF you
  > truly
  >   need one.
  > 
  >   --- Eric Larson
  > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]<mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]<mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]:[EMAIL 
PROTECTED]>>> wrote:
  > 
  >   > Hello,
  >   > 
  >   >    Help, I need a paper flywheel gasket for a
  > 200mm
  >   > flywheel. Does anyone have one that they would
  > part
  >   > with? Otherwise, I have to buy a whole gasket
  > set to
  >   > get one. Are there any online shops that sell
  > just a
  >   > gasket? 
  >   > 
  >   > Thanks, Eric


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