About broken rings - unless the whole top of a piston disintegrated, how 
would a broken ring get out of it's groove?

I've had broken rings before - rookie mistake, putting narrow rings in 
wide grooves - the engine ran fine, but with a ton of blow-by. The 
piston ring grooves were, thankfully, not damaged.

You learn from mistakes...

Chuck Kuecker

On 5/23/2011 12:23 PM, No Quarter wrote:
> I wonder if he lost that brass tube out of the carburetor?
>
> NQ
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Gerald Livingston"<[email protected]>
> To:<[email protected]>
> Sent: Sunday, May 22, 2011 9:43 PM
> Subject: Re: [vintagvw] Motor locked up.
>
>
>> Sounds more like it will turn 340 degrees but not the last 20.
>>
>> The fact that it was 'stuck' until a bit of pressure was applied in the
>> 'correct' direction indicates something has dropped into the combustion
>> chamber. You're looking at a rebuild of at least the top end. Whatever
>> is stuck in there has already scored the cylinder enough to have been
>> wedged between the piston and cylinder OR it had the piston hammered
>> down on it hard enough to lightly weld itself to the piston and
>> cylinder locking them together until you broke it free.
>>
>> It could just be a ring that self destructed and wedged itself in
>> there. Part of it causing the piston to 'stick' and another piece
>> wedging a valve open at the seat.
>>
>> Whatever is in there now was also in there when the motor was at
>> operating speed. No way you're getting out of that rebuild.
>>
>> G2
>>
>> On Sun, 22 May 2011 20:45:32 -0400
>> [email protected] wrote:
>>
>>> Are you saying it will turn back and forth to some point which
>>> represents 20 degrees of crank travel?
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: asad ishaque<[email protected]>
>>> To: vw mailing list<[email protected]>
>>> Sent: Sun, May 22, 2011 8:18 am
>>> Subject: Re: [vintagvw] Motor locked up.
>>>
>>>       Continuing the uncovering of the mystery......
>>>
>>> 4. Now the motor sat on the ground and was inspected. It just would
>>> not turn. We
>>>
>>> decided to be gentle with it and put a 36mm socket with a standard
>>> handle on the
>>>
>>> gland nut (no breaker bar). It would not turn. Just a bit of a nudge
>>> and it came
>>>
>>> free!! It proceeded to turn anticlockwise without any issues but
>>> again at about
>>>
>>> the same point, it would not go any further.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>     We deduced that for about 20 degrees of the revolution, it does
>>> not go round.
>>>
>>> You can take it the other way round but not thru the 20 degrees.
>>

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