even if you clear the app switcher regularly, do you power cycle daily, I mean turn it off and back on again?
I also would suggest turning down the speech rate temporarily. Regards, Neil Barnfather Talks List Administrator Twitter @neilbarnfather www.neilbarnfather.com TalkNav is a Nuance, Code Factory and Sendero dealer, for all your accessible phone, PDA and GPS related enquiries visit www.talknav.com URL: - www.talknav.com e-mail: - [email protected] Phone: - +44 844 999 4199 On 8 May 2012, at 16:46, Danielle McCullough wrote: I never leave things in the app switcher anyway, so I think that that out. I'll live with it, but maybe they'll fix it, lol. Danielle On 8 May 2012, at 04:05 PM, Neil Barnfather - TalkNav <[email protected]> wrote: > Danielle, > > It would be my strong guess that it is a mixed issue primarily relating to > screen reader synth speed, available processor at the time, RAM, apps running > at the time etc. > > one thing to try, and I appreciate that you'll not want to do this for long, > but, humour me, try for 48 hours doing the below and seeing if the issue > resolves. > > A: speech rate no more than 60%, > clear your app switcher twice daily, with one of these clearings occurring in > the evening, immediately followed by a power cycle. > > It is my belief that the issue will go away, I'd be interested to see. > > if it does, keep clearing the apps, and power cycling once a day after one of > the app switcher clear outs, and slowly increase the speech rate, and I mean > slowly, say 65% and upwards in 5% increments. > > > Regards, > > Neil Barnfather > > Talks List Administrator > Twitter @neilbarnfather > www.neilbarnfather.com > > TalkNav is a Nuance, Code Factory and Sendero dealer, for all your > accessible phone, PDA and GPS related enquiries visit www.talknav.com > > URL: - www.talknav.com > e-mail: - [email protected] > Phone: - +44 844 999 4199 > > > > > On 8 May 2012, at 13:24, Danielle McCullough wrote: > > Eric, I never said it was new, just irritating. Neil, I'm too impatient not > to use it under a hundred percent. Strangely, I never experienced this before > the 5.01 update. Funny how some people have it and some don't. > > Danielle > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Neil Barnfather - TalkNav" > <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Tuesday, May 08, 2012 11:53 AM > Subject: Re: iOS 5.1.1 is out > > >> Eric, >> >> Do you have your synth speed set to very fast, or quite slow, I believe the >> default is about 30% or perhaps 40% but not faster. >> >> I keep mine around 50% but never higher. >> >> I also clear the switcher daily and restart. >> >> in your posting you give no reference to if you clear the switcher and >> restart your iOS device daily. >> >> do you do both of these things and what rate do you have VO set to? >> >> >> >> >> Regards, >> >> Neil Barnfather >> >> Talks List Administrator >> Twitter @neilbarnfather >> www.neilbarnfather.com >> >> TalkNav is a Nuance, Code Factory and Sendero dealer, for all your >> accessible phone, PDA and GPS related enquiries visit www.talknav.com >> >> URL: - www.talknav.com >> e-mail: - [email protected] >> Phone: - +44 844 999 4199 >> >> >> >> >> On 8 May 2012, at 11:48, Eric SS wrote: >> >> I am amazed and confounded that so many who have been here for so long and >> speak as though they have such great knowledge act as though this is an >> unheard of experience that is brand new and only happening with a very few. >> >> This has been going on since IOS5. I know I have discussed it at length and >> probably too much. Apple has never acknowledged the issue, although they did >> once ask for clarification of what situations caused it. >> >> Trust me, I am a very heavy user and fairly knowledgeable and the issue is >> real and is not limited just to a few new occurrences on this list. I have >> tested it under all situations I can come up with on a 4S and old ITouch, >> with both quality voices and even alternate accents. I have restored both >> devices on several occasions; complete restores and not merely from backup. >> I have methodically added applications to the devices to find if maybe one >> is causing the problem. None of these has revealed anything but randomness. >> >> The only thing I can see that is more apt to trigger a lockup is quickly >> scanning elements. I have found if I stop speech or wait until it has >> finished speaking, I can reduce the occurrences, but even this does not >> eliminate them. Recovery seems an inexact science, as well. Eighty seconds >> seems to be the magic time to allow it to right itself, but I count to 40 >> and then touch the screen to prevent it going dem or to sleep, and then wait >> another 40 counts. It may not be exactly 80 seconds, but a count of 80 seems >> to be about right. Otherwise, you can restart the phone with multiple >> presses of the power button, but that will start you back at the home >> screen. I read a lot in Safari, and it is maddening to have to find your >> place in the middle of the New York Times once or twice per issue. Hence, >> nursing the device to recover on its own is best. >> >> I have had this locking up in nearly every application from those I have >> purchased to native apps. Again, it seems to be most consistent when >> skimming from element to element. They do not have to be paragraph length >> clips, but may be dates in the calendar app. >> >> I have presented all of this to Apple on many occasions and have begged >> their assistance or at least some acknowledgement of the issue. As I said, >> beyond requesting more information one time, I have never even been given so >> much as a thank you for your inquiry. >> >> The only reasons I can think some don't seem to be having this issue ever is >> like they used to say with Windows: If you have not crashed, you are not >> using your computer enough. Well, there could be some Fan Children refusal >> to believe anything could ever be amiss with one of the annointed's >> blessings, too,. >> >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf >> Of Daniel Miller >> Sent: Monday, May 07, 2012 5:21 PM >> To: [email protected] >> Subject: RE: iOS 5.1.1 is out >> >> Um, what speech locking up are you talking about? I don't have that issue. >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf >> Of James Mannion >> Sent: Monday, May 07, 2012 4:15 PM >> To: [email protected] >> Subject: Re: iOS 5.1.1 is out >> >> It doesn't really sound like this release addressed much. I would not be >> surprised if there are few or no fixes for anything accessibility. >> They may have made a quick fix for the app launching on unlock since people >> made such a huge deal out of that small avoidable not really a problem >> issue, but I wish they would fix the speech locking up over that one. It is >> really strange though that they put out this release to fix what appear to >> be such minor issues and they let huge issues hang out there for 6 or 9 >> months until some planned release and at least claim to have addressed them. >> Purely speculation here of course on all of this, but I am betting there was >> some change in this release that Apple has some motivation to make and it is >> not written anywhere. >> Something like a jailbreak whole patched or something. >> >> On 5/7/12, Veronica Elsea <[email protected]> wrote: >>> Anyone know if 5.1.1 addresses the blue tooth issue that prevented the >>> Braille Sense OnHand from working properly with the phone? Thanks. >>> >>> Veronica >>> >>> At 01:07 PM 5/7/2012, you wrote: >>>> Another issue not addressed, apparently, is in the calendar. When you >>>> select all day as an option, it Kicks you completely out of the >>>> calendar still. >>>> >>>> It does not give me hope that they have addressed the speech locking >>>> up issue, either. We can only hope! >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Telephone: (614) 522-9725 >>>> Skype: sseric57 >>>> >>>> >>>> On May 7, 2012, at 3:59 PM, Scott Howell <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>>> Well it may be a little early to tell if this issue has been >>>> addressed, but I am not seeing the issue where occasionally the phone >>>> app would launch when I unlocked the screen. So, this may be one item >>>> not addressed in the release notes. I guess only time will tell. >>>> >>>> On May 7, 2012, at 3:11 PM, Cristobal wrote: >>>> >>>>> I downloaded it this time with no issues. The one bug I was glad to >>>>> see addressed and I always encountered was that purchase prompt >>>>> error >>>> every time >>>>> I downloaded an app about how x number of items were unable to be >>>>> downloaded. Other than that, I didn't notice anything on the list >>>>> of fixes that I had trouble with. I guess I'll keep an eye out per >>>>> say for any accessibility improvements/fixes. >>>>> >>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On >>>>> Behalf Of Woody Anna Dresner >>>>> Sent: Monday, May 07, 2012 11:54 AM >>>>> To: [email protected] >>>>> Subject: Re: iOS 5.1.1 is out >>>>> >>>>> Hi Jenifer and all, >>>>> >>>>> Just because accessibility isn't mentioned in the summary of the >>>>> update doesn't necessarily mean no accessibility improvements will >>>>> be >> included. >>>>> There may not be any, but there have certainly been times in the >>>>> past where there were some, but they weren't mentioned in the >>>>> update What's New summary. >>>>> >>>>> Best, >>>>> Anna >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On May 7, 2012, at 1:48 PM, Jenifer Gilley wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Nothing accessibility. A few bugs that were addressed in photo >>>>>> stream, >>>>> airplay, and two more things I can't remember, but nothing that has >>>>> to do with accessibility. I'm updating now though just because. >>>>>> Jenifer Gilley >>>>>> email >>>>>> [email protected] >>>>>> MSN: >>>>>> [email protected] >>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>>>> From: Cristobal >>>>>> To: [email protected] >>>>>> Sent: Monday, May 07, 2012 1:53 PM >>>>>> Subject: iOS 5.1.1 is out >>>>>> >>>>>> It appears that iOS 5.1.1 is out for iPhones, Touches and iPads >>>>>> for those >>>>> who wish to give it a try. I remember running into some issues that >>>>> didn't prevent me from updating to 5.1 on my phone, but did crash >>>>> it the >>>> first time >>>>> I tried downloading it. Gizmodo only mentions a few bug fixes so I >>>>> don't know if there's anything accessibility related. 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