Hello, It definitely happens, and really looks like memory buffer overflow issues. VO remains running, but the voice disappears. If you have a braille display connected, you will find that the braille display continues running. My guess is that the problem is related to the HQ voices.
David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA Email: [email protected] Mobile: +64 21 2288 288 Sent from my iPhone On 08/05/2012, at 22:48, "Eric SS" <[email protected]> wrote: > I am amazed and confounded that so many who have been here for so long and > speak as though they have such great knowledge act as though this is an > unheard of experience that is brand new and only happening with a very few. > > This has been going on since IOS5. I know I have discussed it at length and > probably too much. Apple has never acknowledged the issue, although they did > once ask for clarification of what situations caused it. > > Trust me, I am a very heavy user and fairly knowledgeable and the issue is > real and is not limited just to a few new occurrences on this list. I have > tested it under all situations I can come up with on a 4S and old ITouch, > with both quality voices and even alternate accents. I have restored both > devices on several occasions; complete restores and not merely from backup. > I have methodically added applications to the devices to find if maybe one > is causing the problem. None of these has revealed anything but randomness. > > The only thing I can see that is more apt to trigger a lockup is quickly > scanning elements. I have found if I stop speech or wait until it has > finished speaking, I can reduce the occurrences, but even this does not > eliminate them. Recovery seems an inexact science, as well. Eighty seconds > seems to be the magic time to allow it to right itself, but I count to 40 > and then touch the screen to prevent it going dem or to sleep, and then wait > another 40 counts. It may not be exactly 80 seconds, but a count of 80 seems > to be about right. Otherwise, you can restart the phone with multiple > presses of the power button, but that will start you back at the home > screen. I read a lot in Safari, and it is maddening to have to find your > place in the middle of the New York Times once or twice per issue. Hence, > nursing the device to recover on its own is best. > > I have had this locking up in nearly every application from those I have > purchased to native apps. Again, it seems to be most consistent when > skimming from element to element. They do not have to be paragraph length > clips, but may be dates in the calendar app. > > I have presented all of this to Apple on many occasions and have begged > their assistance or at least some acknowledgement of the issue. As I said, > beyond requesting more information one time, I have never even been given so > much as a thank you for your inquiry. > > The only reasons I can think some don't seem to be having this issue ever is > like they used to say with Windows: If you have not crashed, you are not > using your computer enough. Well, there could be some Fan Children refusal > to believe anything could ever be amiss with one of the annointed's > blessings, too,. > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf > Of Daniel Miller > Sent: Monday, May 07, 2012 5:21 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: RE: iOS 5.1.1 is out > > Um, what speech locking up are you talking about? I don't have that issue. > > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf > Of James Mannion > Sent: Monday, May 07, 2012 4:15 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: iOS 5.1.1 is out > > It doesn't really sound like this release addressed much. I would not be > surprised if there are few or no fixes for anything accessibility. > They may have made a quick fix for the app launching on unlock since people > made such a huge deal out of that small avoidable not really a problem > issue, but I wish they would fix the speech locking up over that one. It is > really strange though that they put out this release to fix what appear to > be such minor issues and they let huge issues hang out there for 6 or 9 > months until some planned release and at least claim to have addressed them. > Purely speculation here of course on all of this, but I am betting there was > some change in this release that Apple has some motivation to make and it is > not written anywhere. > Something like a jailbreak whole patched or something. > > On 5/7/12, Veronica Elsea <[email protected]> wrote: >> Anyone know if 5.1.1 addresses the blue tooth issue that prevented the >> Braille Sense OnHand from working properly with the phone? Thanks. >> >> Veronica >> >> At 01:07 PM 5/7/2012, you wrote: >>> Another issue not addressed, apparently, is in the calendar. When you >>> select all day as an option, it Kicks you completely out of the >>> calendar still. >>> >>> It does not give me hope that they have addressed the speech locking >>> up issue, either. We can only hope! >>> >>> >>> >>> Telephone: (614) 522-9725 >>> Skype: sseric57 >>> >>> >>> On May 7, 2012, at 3:59 PM, Scott Howell <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>> Well it may be a little early to tell if this issue has been >>> addressed, but I am not seeing the issue where occasionally the phone >>> app would launch when I unlocked the screen. So, this may be one item >>> not addressed in the release notes. I guess only time will tell. >>> >>> On May 7, 2012, at 3:11 PM, Cristobal wrote: >>> >>>> I downloaded it this time with no issues. The one bug I was glad to >>>> see addressed and I always encountered was that purchase prompt >>>> error >>> every time >>>> I downloaded an app about how x number of items were unable to be >>>> downloaded. Other than that, I didn't notice anything on the list >>>> of fixes that I had trouble with. I guess I'll keep an eye out per >>>> say for any accessibility improvements/fixes. >>>> >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On >>>> Behalf Of Woody Anna Dresner >>>> Sent: Monday, May 07, 2012 11:54 AM >>>> To: [email protected] >>>> Subject: Re: iOS 5.1.1 is out >>>> >>>> Hi Jenifer and all, >>>> >>>> Just because accessibility isn't mentioned in the summary of the >>>> update doesn't necessarily mean no accessibility improvements will >>>> be > included. >>>> There may not be any, but there have certainly been times in the >>>> past where there were some, but they weren't mentioned in the >>>> update What's New summary. >>>> >>>> Best, >>>> Anna >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On May 7, 2012, at 1:48 PM, Jenifer Gilley wrote: >>>> >>>>> Nothing accessibility. A few bugs that were addressed in photo >>>>> stream, >>>> airplay, and two more things I can't remember, but nothing that has >>>> to do with accessibility. 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