Yeh I do. Can't bare the thought of slow speech. too impatient. I'll just make do ----- Original Message ----- From: "Neil Barnfather - TalkNav" <[email protected]>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Tuesday, May 08, 2012 5:51 PM
Subject: Re: iOS 5.1.1 is out


even if you clear the app switcher regularly, do you power cycle daily, I mean turn it off and back on again?

I also would suggest turning down the speech rate temporarily.


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On 8 May 2012, at 16:46, Danielle McCullough wrote:

I never leave things in the app switcher anyway, so I think that that out. I'll live with it, but maybe they'll fix it, lol.

Danielle



On 8 May 2012, at 04:05 PM, Neil Barnfather - TalkNav <[email protected]> wrote:

Danielle,

It would be my strong guess that it is a mixed issue primarily relating to screen reader synth speed, available processor at the time, RAM, apps running at the time etc.

one thing to try, and I appreciate that you'll not want to do this for long, but, humour me, try for 48 hours doing the below and seeing if the issue resolves.

A: speech rate no more than 60%,
clear your app switcher twice daily, with one of these clearings occurring in the evening, immediately followed by a power cycle.

It is my belief that the issue will go away, I'd be interested to see.

if it does, keep clearing the apps, and power cycling once a day after one of the app switcher clear outs, and slowly increase the speech rate, and I mean slowly, say 65% and upwards in 5% increments.


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On 8 May 2012, at 13:24, Danielle McCullough wrote:

Eric, I never said it was new, just irritating. Neil, I'm too impatient not to use it under a hundred percent. Strangely, I never experienced this before the 5.01 update. Funny how some people have it and some don't.

Danielle
----- Original Message ----- From: "Neil Barnfather - TalkNav" <[email protected]>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Tuesday, May 08, 2012 11:53 AM
Subject: Re: iOS 5.1.1 is out


Eric,

Do you have your synth speed set to very fast, or quite slow, I believe the default is about 30% or perhaps 40% but not faster.

I keep mine around 50% but never higher.

I also clear the switcher daily and restart.

in your posting you give no reference to if you clear the switcher and restart your iOS device daily.

do you do both of these things and what rate do you have VO set to?




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On 8 May 2012, at 11:48, Eric SS wrote:

I am amazed and confounded that so many who have been here for so long and
speak as though they have such great knowledge act as though this is an
unheard of experience that is brand new and only happening with a very few.

This has been going on since IOS5. I know I have discussed it at length and probably too much. Apple has never acknowledged the issue, although they did
once ask for clarification of what situations caused it.

Trust me, I am a very heavy user and fairly knowledgeable and the issue is real and is not limited just to a few new occurrences on this list. I have tested it under all situations I can come up with on a 4S and old ITouch, with both quality voices and even alternate accents. I have restored both devices on several occasions; complete restores and not merely from backup. I have methodically added applications to the devices to find if maybe one is causing the problem. None of these has revealed anything but randomness.

The only thing I can see that is more apt to trigger a lockup is quickly
scanning elements. I have found if I stop speech or wait until it has
finished speaking, I can reduce the occurrences, but even this does not
eliminate them. Recovery seems an inexact science, as well. Eighty seconds seems to be the magic time to allow it to right itself, but I count to 40 and then touch the screen to prevent it going dem or to sleep, and then wait another 40 counts. It may not be exactly 80 seconds, but a count of 80 seems
to be about right. Otherwise, you can restart the phone with multiple
presses of the power button, but that will start you back at the home
screen. I read a lot in Safari, and it is maddening to have to find your
place in the middle of the New York Times once or twice per issue. Hence,
nursing the device to recover on its own is best.

I have had this locking up in nearly every application from those I have
purchased to native apps. Again, it seems to be most consistent when
skimming from element to element. They do not have to be paragraph length
clips, but may be dates in the calendar app.

I have presented all of this to Apple on many occasions and have begged
their assistance or at least some acknowledgement of the issue. As I said, beyond requesting more information one time, I have never even been given so
much as a thank you for your inquiry.

The only reasons I can think some don't seem to be having this issue ever is
like they used to say with Windows: If you have not crashed, you are not
using your computer enough. Well, there could be some Fan Children refusal
to believe anything could ever be amiss with one of the annointed's
blessings, too,.



-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf
Of Daniel Miller
Sent: Monday, May 07, 2012 5:21 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: RE: iOS 5.1.1 is out

Um, what speech locking up are you talking about? I don't have that issue.


-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf
Of James Mannion
Sent: Monday, May 07, 2012 4:15 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: iOS 5.1.1 is out

It doesn't really sound like this release addressed much. I would not be
surprised if there are few or no fixes for anything accessibility.
They may have made a quick fix for the app launching on unlock since people
made such a huge deal out of that small avoidable not really a problem
issue, but I wish they would fix the speech locking up over that one. It is really strange though that they put out this release to fix what appear to
be such minor issues and they let huge issues hang out there for 6 or 9
months until some planned release and at least claim to have addressed them. Purely speculation here of course on all of this, but I am betting there was some change in this release that Apple has some motivation to make and it is
not written anywhere.
Something like a jailbreak whole patched or something.

On 5/7/12, Veronica Elsea <[email protected]> wrote:
Anyone know if 5.1.1 addresses the blue tooth issue that prevented the
Braille Sense OnHand from working properly with the phone? Thanks.

Veronica

At 01:07 PM 5/7/2012, you wrote:
Another issue not addressed, apparently, is in the calendar. When you
select all day as an option, it Kicks you completely out of the
calendar still.

It does not give me hope that they have addressed the speech locking
up issue, either. We can only hope!



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On May 7, 2012, at 3:59 PM, Scott Howell <[email protected]> wrote:

Well it may be a little early to tell if this issue has been
addressed, but I am not seeing the issue where occasionally the phone
app would launch when I unlocked the screen. So, this may be one item
not addressed in the release notes. I guess only time will tell.

On May 7, 2012, at 3:11 PM, Cristobal wrote:

I downloaded it this time with no issues. The one bug I was glad to
see addressed and I always encountered was that purchase prompt
error
every time
I downloaded an app about how x number of items were unable to be
downloaded. Other than that, I didn't notice anything on the list
of fixes that I had trouble with. I guess I'll keep an eye out per
say for any accessibility improvements/fixes.

-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On
Behalf Of Woody Anna Dresner
Sent: Monday, May 07, 2012 11:54 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: iOS 5.1.1 is out

Hi Jenifer and all,

Just because accessibility isn't mentioned in the summary of the
update doesn't necessarily mean no accessibility improvements will
be
included.
There may not be any, but there have certainly been times in the
past where there were some, but they weren't mentioned in the
update What's New summary.

Best,
Anna



On May 7, 2012, at 1:48 PM, Jenifer Gilley wrote:

Nothing accessibility.  A few bugs that were addressed in photo
stream,
airplay, and two more things I can't remember, but nothing that has
to do with accessibility.  I'm updating now though just because.
Jenifer Gilley
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----- Original Message -----
From: Cristobal
To: [email protected]
Sent: Monday, May 07, 2012 1:53 PM
Subject: iOS 5.1.1 is out

It appears that iOS 5.1.1 is out for iPhones, Touches and iPads
for those
who wish to give it a try. I remember running into some issues that
didn't prevent me from updating to 5.1 on my phone, but did crash
it the
first time
I tried downloading it. Gizmodo only mentions a few bug fixes so I
don't know if there's anything accessibility related. Perhaps
others can dig up the information.

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