Re: THINKING ABOUT A MAC!

Fri, 22 Jun 2012 20:52:54 -0700

A few months ago, my Windows PC died, and i had to make a decision about what to buy. I priced an iMac with the specs I wanted, along with a Dell machine. The Mac would have run me $2300. The Dell with a few discounts ran me under $1000, and had superior specs. I already owned a windows screen reader, so that was a non issue. I went for the Dell. i just couldn't justify spending over double the price just to be cool. 

Andy
-----Original Message----- From: Christopher Chaltain 
Sent: Friday, June 22, 2012 3:07 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: THINKING ABOUT A MAC!

What are we talking about here? Macs versus PC's or cell phones?

People are saying Macs are cheaper then PC's with screen readers, but I
think each person needs to do their own research here and their own
addition. I noticed no one has tossed out any numbers. Screen readers
for Windows run from free to $1K. Depending on what you need to do the
free screen reader may be completely sufficient. Macs do cost more than
PC's when talking about equivalent performance. People need to do their
own research to find out if the Mac they want will cost $1K more than a
comparable PC or not.

The quality of customer service and support is another totally
subjective point. Not all PC's come from the same manufacturer, so you
can't categorically say that Apple's customer service and support is
better than any PC maker across the board.

The quality of the screen reader is also totally subjective and
dependent on the tasks you need to accomplish with it. To say that one
is second rate or that another is superior is just an opinion.

Contrary to popular belief and Apple's propaganda, Apple's and Macs are
not immune from viruses.

Also, I have a Symbian phone for 10 years, and neither Talks nor Mobile
Speak cost $390, so I'm not sure where that number comes from. Talks was
around $300, and you could get Mobile Speak for about $100 from AT&T.

IMHO, these debates are fruitless, especially when no numbers or facts
are even being used or incorrect facts/numbers are tossed out. It's also
highly off topic for this list, at least in my opinion. Nothing good can
come from these discussions, and each person needs to decide what is
best for them. This isn't always the same answer for each person, and
that's OK. No one needs to defend their decision or put down any one
else's decision.

On 22/06/12 16:27, Eric Oyen wrote:
overpriced they may be, but their quality (and warrantee service) are definitely loads better. besides, why should I have to spend $400 or more for mobile speak or talks on a microsoft device (which, itself, may be overpriced)?
I have no love for MS products. they were never intended to have any accessibility built in (again, you need to pay out extra for that and it is often more than most blind/VI people can afford).
I have 2 phones here: an iPhone 3GS and a HTC Dash_3G. I like the responsiveness and ease of use the iPhone offers. I had to spend $390 just to make the dash accessible, and that even required a sighted person to set it up for me. believe me, given the choice, I would rather use linux or OS X and to hell with MS products. 

-eric

On Jun 18, 2012, at 7:05 PM, Russ wrote:


Based upon limited knowledge Macs are overpriced. The screen reader
capability is 2nd rate.


-----Original Message-----
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
Of Sarai Bucciarelli
Sent: Monday, June 18, 2012 6:55 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: THINKING ABOUT A MAC!
Stop that! Going back and forth is the worst thing you can do! Trust me on 
that.
On Jun 18, 2012, at 11:53 AM, Chuck Dean wrote:


Hi Carol ,
I bought a Mac back in January, and I still haven't gotten the hang of

voice over.

I went to the Apple store, who were not much help, and tried to find

tutorial videos but not much is out there.


I guess my problems stem from me going back and forth between Zoom and
voice over, something I do all the time on my PC. I do have some vision, so 
I only want to use the screen reader for a few things. I can not find the
proper settings to run it like I run  my PC. Perhaps they do not exist.


I run both Mac and PC through the same monitor using a VGA  A B switch.
I am currently on a PC with Zoom Text, which never fails to disappoint me. As said above, there is a learning curve, it does not seem as intuitive as 
the iPhone.

Just my two cents worth,
Chuck

On Monday, June 18, 2012 5:01:06 AM UTC-7, Carol Pearson wrote:
Hi all,

The time is coming now to replace my current desktop and I'm thinking
about a Mac.

Seriously, though, can you really work as quickly when it comes to
editing docs?

What is out there that will work for database and word processing that
will give you the full functionality you expect?

Carol P


On Monday, June 18, 2012 5:01:06 AM UTC-7, Carol Pearson wrote:
Hi all,

The time is coming now to replace my current desktop and I'm thinking
about a Mac.

Seriously, though, can you really work as quickly when it comes to
editing docs?

What is out there that will work for database and word processing that
will give you the full functionality you expect?

Carol P


On Monday, June 18, 2012 5:01:06 AM UTC-7, Carol Pearson wrote:
Hi all,

The time is coming now to replace my current desktop and I'm thinking
about a Mac.

Seriously, though, can you really work as quickly when it comes to
editing docs?

What is out there that will work for database and word processing that
will give you the full functionality you expect?

Carol P


On Monday, June 18, 2012 5:01:06 AM UTC-7, Carol Pearson wrote:
Hi all,

The time is coming now to replace my current desktop and I'm thinking
about a Mac.

Seriously, though, can you really work as quickly when it comes to
editing docs?

What is out there that will work for database and word processing that
will give you the full functionality you expect?

Carol P


On Monday, June 18, 2012 5:01:06 AM UTC-7, Carol Pearson wrote:
Hi all,

The time is coming now to replace my current desktop and I'm thinking
about a Mac.

Seriously, though, can you really work as quickly when it comes to
editing docs?

What is out there that will work for database and word processing that
will give you the full functionality you expect?

Carol P


On Monday, June 18, 2012 5:01:06 AM UTC-7, Carol Pearson wrote:
Hi all,

The time is coming now to replace my current desktop and I'm thinking
about a Mac.

Seriously, though, can you really work as quickly when it comes to
editing docs?

What is out there that will work for database and word processing that
will give you the full functionality you expect?

Carol P


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