Hi, With all do respect, I find this extremely hard to believe. Yes. Macs are more expensive but, not twice as expensive as PC equivalents. An 21 inch iMac starts at $1100. So, for you to spec that out to 2300, you must have added some goodies. :). If you tried to build a PC equivalent of a $2300 iMac, you wouldn't come close to spending under a grand. You would be talking at least, 15 to 1800 dollars. And that's excluding a screen reader of course.
Ricardo Walker [email protected] Twitter:@apple2thecore www.appletothecore.info On Jun 22, 2012, at 11:52 PM, Andy Baracco <[email protected]> wrote: > A few months ago, my Windows PC died, and i had to make a decision about what > to buy. I priced an iMac with the specs I wanted, along with a Dell machine. > The Mac would have run me $2300. The Dell with a few discounts ran me under > $1000, and had superior specs. I already owned a windows screen reader, so > that was a non issue. I went for the Dell. i just couldn't justify spending > over double the price just to be cool. > > Andy > > > -----Original Message----- From: Christopher Chaltain > Sent: Friday, June 22, 2012 3:07 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: THINKING ABOUT A MAC! > > What are we talking about here? Macs versus PC's or cell phones? > > People are saying Macs are cheaper then PC's with screen readers, but I > think each person needs to do their own research here and their own > addition. I noticed no one has tossed out any numbers. Screen readers > for Windows run from free to $1K. Depending on what you need to do the > free screen reader may be completely sufficient. Macs do cost more than > PC's when talking about equivalent performance. People need to do their > own research to find out if the Mac they want will cost $1K more than a > comparable PC or not. > > The quality of customer service and support is another totally > subjective point. Not all PC's come from the same manufacturer, so you > can't categorically say that Apple's customer service and support is > better than any PC maker across the board. > > The quality of the screen reader is also totally subjective and > dependent on the tasks you need to accomplish with it. To say that one > is second rate or that another is superior is just an opinion. > > Contrary to popular belief and Apple's propaganda, Apple's and Macs are > not immune from viruses. > > Also, I have a Symbian phone for 10 years, and neither Talks nor Mobile > Speak cost $390, so I'm not sure where that number comes from. Talks was > around $300, and you could get Mobile Speak for about $100 from AT&T. > > IMHO, these debates are fruitless, especially when no numbers or facts > are even being used or incorrect facts/numbers are tossed out. It's also > highly off topic for this list, at least in my opinion. Nothing good can > come from these discussions, and each person needs to decide what is > best for them. This isn't always the same answer for each person, and > that's OK. No one needs to defend their decision or put down any one > else's decision. > > On 22/06/12 16:27, Eric Oyen wrote: >> overpriced they may be, but their quality (and warrantee service) are >> definitely loads better. besides, why should I have to spend $400 or more >> for mobile speak or talks on a microsoft device (which, itself, may be >> overpriced)? >> >> I have no love for MS products. they were never intended to have any >> accessibility built in (again, you need to pay out extra for that and it is >> often more than most blind/VI people can afford). >> >> I have 2 phones here: an iPhone 3GS and a HTC Dash_3G. I like the >> responsiveness and ease of use the iPhone offers. I had to spend $390 just >> to make the dash accessible, and that even required a sighted person to set >> it up for me. believe me, given the choice, I would rather use linux or OS X >> and to hell with MS products. >> >> -eric >> >> On Jun 18, 2012, at 7:05 PM, Russ wrote: >> >>> Based upon limited knowledge Macs are overpriced. The screen reader >>> capability is 2nd rate. >>> >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf >>> Of Sarai Bucciarelli >>> Sent: Monday, June 18, 2012 6:55 PM >>> To: [email protected] >>> Subject: Re: THINKING ABOUT A MAC! >>> >>> Stop that! Going back and forth is the worst thing you can do! Trust me on >>> that. >>> On Jun 18, 2012, at 11:53 AM, Chuck Dean wrote: >>> >>>> Hi Carol , >>>> I bought a Mac back in January, and I still haven't gotten the hang of >>> voice over. >>>> I went to the Apple store, who were not much help, and tried to find >>> tutorial videos but not much is out there. >>>> >>>> I guess my problems stem from me going back and forth between Zoom and >>> voice over, something I do all the time on my PC. I do have some vision, so >>> I only want to use the screen reader for a few things. I can not find the >>> proper settings to run it like I run my PC. Perhaps they do not exist. >>>> >>>> I run both Mac and PC through the same monitor using a VGA A B switch. >>>> I am currently on a PC with Zoom Text, which never fails to disappoint me. >>>> As said above, there is a learning curve, it does not seem as intuitive as >>> the iPhone. >>>> Just my two cents worth, >>>> Chuck >>>> >>>> On Monday, June 18, 2012 5:01:06 AM UTC-7, Carol Pearson wrote: >>>> Hi all, >>>> >>>> The time is coming now to replace my current desktop and I'm thinking >>>> about a Mac. >>>> >>>> Seriously, though, can you really work as quickly when it comes to >>>> editing docs? >>>> >>>> What is out there that will work for database and word processing that >>>> will give you the full functionality you expect? >>>> >>>> Carol P >>>> >>>> >>>> On Monday, June 18, 2012 5:01:06 AM UTC-7, Carol Pearson wrote: >>>> Hi all, >>>> >>>> The time is coming now to replace my current desktop and I'm thinking >>>> about a Mac. >>>> >>>> Seriously, though, can you really work as quickly when it comes to >>>> editing docs? >>>> >>>> What is out there that will work for database and word processing that >>>> will give you the full functionality you expect? >>>> >>>> Carol P >>>> >>>> >>>> On Monday, June 18, 2012 5:01:06 AM UTC-7, Carol Pearson wrote: >>>> Hi all, >>>> >>>> The time is coming now to replace my current desktop and I'm thinking >>>> about a Mac. >>>> >>>> Seriously, though, can you really work as quickly when it comes to >>>> editing docs? >>>> >>>> What is out there that will work for database and word processing that >>>> will give you the full functionality you expect? >>>> >>>> Carol P >>>> >>>> >>>> On Monday, June 18, 2012 5:01:06 AM UTC-7, Carol Pearson wrote: >>>> Hi all, >>>> >>>> The time is coming now to replace my current desktop and I'm thinking >>>> about a Mac. >>>> >>>> Seriously, though, can you really work as quickly when it comes to >>>> editing docs? >>>> >>>> What is out there that will work for database and word processing that >>>> will give you the full functionality you expect? >>>> >>>> Carol P >>>> >>>> >>>> On Monday, June 18, 2012 5:01:06 AM UTC-7, Carol Pearson wrote: >>>> Hi all, >>>> >>>> The time is coming now to replace my current desktop and I'm thinking >>>> about a Mac. >>>> >>>> Seriously, though, can you really work as quickly when it comes to >>>> editing docs? >>>> >>>> What is out there that will work for database and word processing that >>>> will give you the full functionality you expect? >>>> >>>> Carol P >>>> >>>> >>>> On Monday, June 18, 2012 5:01:06 AM UTC-7, Carol Pearson wrote: >>>> Hi all, >>>> >>>> The time is coming now to replace my current desktop and I'm thinking >>>> about a Mac. >>>> >>>> Seriously, though, can you really work as quickly when it comes to >>>> editing docs? >>>> >>>> What is out there that will work for database and word processing that >>>> will give you the full functionality you expect? >>>> >>>> Carol P >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VIPhone" >>> Google Group. >>>> To search the VIPhone public archive, visit >>> http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/. >>>> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> [email protected]. >>>> For more options, visit this group at >>> http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VIPhone" Google >>> Group. >>> To search the VIPhone public archive, visit >>> http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/. >>> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> [email protected]. >>> For more options, visit this group at >>> http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VIPhone" >>> Google Group. >>> To search the VIPhone public archive, visit >>> http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/. >>> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> [email protected]. >>> For more options, visit this group at >>> http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. >> > > > -- > Christopher (CJ) > chaltain at Gmail > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VIPhone" Google > Group. > To search the VIPhone public archive, visit > http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > [email protected]. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VIPhone" Google > Group. > To search the VIPhone public archive, visit > http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > [email protected]. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VIPhone" Google Group. 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