Voiceover does not read tables on the mac at all. Therefore, in text edit, it won’t be possible.
I like the mac, but the lack of decent word processing makes me have windows installed for serious work. From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Harmony Neil Sent: Saturday, 23 June 2012 5:40 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: THINKING ABOUT A MAC! I got a macbook pro just over a week ago, but don't want to install windows on this machine. I've been using it for mail, twitter, Skype and sometimes MSN, but setting up to play muds takes a lot of effort and playing around with the terminal. Pretty cool though once you get it up and working. Yes it was expensive to buy, but it'll be worth it, since I don't have a licensed copy of Office pro on my windows laptop and you can save things as word format with text edit on the mac anyway. /the only thing I'm not too sure how to do is make a table in text edit, although I did see something in the menus for that. Just a final point for now, I think the sound quality is better than that on a windows laptop. I can hear voiceover just fine at 55% on the mac I'm writing from now, but on the windows laptop, I have to turn NVDA up to 85 or 90% to be able to hear it properly. The only time I've needed to use earphones is when talking on Skype or playing games, because the tintin++ sounds are pretty quiet sometimes. For that though, you can use the earphones from the iPhone if you have one, since they're apple ones. Oh, I almost forgot to say, the software for the mac is either nicely built-in and very accessible (including the chess game), o else free or very cheap. If you wanted office for the mac, for example, you would only have to pay £89, but for windows version you have to pay over £400. The only real thing I don't appreciate is having the @ symbol on the 2 key instead of the ' key as it's meant to be in the UK keyboard layout, unless that's just a windows thing. Hope this extremely long e-mail helps, Harmony. On 22 Jun 2012, at 22:36, Jakob Rosin wrote: hi. i'm a very new mac user. I moved to mac this week's monday. so i've been using the mac for 4 days now. it is different. so different that I can't describe it in one mail. I can say thoug, that I haven't tried to go to my windows computer yet. I do like mac, and it does things what I need (msn, skype, mail, twitter, web browsing) very well. i've used it so litttle, that I can't tell much right now. I've heard that the text processing isn't so good as it is on windows. as I need to write lots of text at school, I decided to install windows on my mac book air with bootcamp as second OS to do my school stuff on it. Kõike paremat soovides With best regards Jakob Rosin [email protected] skype: jakob.rosin twitter: @jakobrosin On Jun 23, 2012, at 12:27 AM, Eric Oyen wrote: overpriced they may be, but their quality (and warrantee service) are definitely loads better. besides, why should I have to spend $400 or more for mobile speak or talks on a microsoft device (which, itself, may be overpriced)? I have no love for MS products. they were never intended to have any accessibility built in (again, you need to pay out extra for that and it is often more than most blind/VI people can afford). I have 2 phones here: an iPhone 3GS and a HTC Dash_3G. I like the responsiveness and ease of use the iPhone offers. I had to spend $390 just to make the dash accessible, and that even required a sighted person to set it up for me. believe me, given the choice, I would rather use linux or OS X and to hell with MS products. -eric On Jun 18, 2012, at 7:05 PM, Russ wrote: Based upon limited knowledge Macs are overpriced. The screen reader capability is 2nd rate. -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Sarai Bucciarelli Sent: Monday, June 18, 2012 6:55 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: THINKING ABOUT A MAC! Stop that! Going back and forth is the worst thing you can do! Trust me on that. On Jun 18, 2012, at 11:53 AM, Chuck Dean wrote: Hi Carol , I bought a Mac back in January, and I still haven't gotten the hang of voice over. I went to the Apple store, who were not much help, and tried to find tutorial videos but not much is out there. I guess my problems stem from me going back and forth between Zoom and voice over, something I do all the time on my PC. I do have some vision, so I only want to use the screen reader for a few things. I can not find the proper settings to run it like I run my PC. Perhaps they do not exist. I run both Mac and PC through the same monitor using a VGA A B switch. I am currently on a PC with Zoom Text, which never fails to disappoint me. As said above, there is a learning curve, it does not seem as intuitive as the iPhone. Just my two cents worth, Chuck On Monday, June 18, 2012 5:01:06 AM UTC-7, Carol Pearson wrote: Hi all, The time is coming now to replace my current desktop and I'm thinking about a Mac. Seriously, though, can you really work as quickly when it comes to editing docs? What is out there that will work for database and word processing that will give you the full functionality you expect? Carol P On Monday, June 18, 2012 5:01:06 AM UTC-7, Carol Pearson wrote: Hi all, The time is coming now to replace my current desktop and I'm thinking about a Mac. Seriously, though, can you really work as quickly when it comes to editing docs? What is out there that will work for database and word processing that will give you the full functionality you expect? Carol P On Monday, June 18, 2012 5:01:06 AM UTC-7, Carol Pearson wrote: Hi all, The time is coming now to replace my current desktop and I'm thinking about a Mac. Seriously, though, can you really work as quickly when it comes to editing docs? What is out there that will work for database and word processing that will give you the full functionality you expect? Carol P On Monday, June 18, 2012 5:01:06 AM UTC-7, Carol Pearson wrote: Hi all, The time is coming now to replace my current desktop and I'm thinking about a Mac. Seriously, though, can you really work as quickly when it comes to editing docs? What is out there that will work for database and word processing that will give you the full functionality you expect? Carol P On Monday, June 18, 2012 5:01:06 AM UTC-7, Carol Pearson wrote: Hi all, The time is coming now to replace my current desktop and I'm thinking about a Mac. Seriously, though, can you really work as quickly when it comes to editing docs? What is out there that will work for database and word processing that will give you the full functionality you expect? Carol P On Monday, June 18, 2012 5:01:06 AM UTC-7, Carol Pearson wrote: Hi all, The time is coming now to replace my current desktop and I'm thinking about a Mac. Seriously, though, can you really work as quickly when it comes to editing docs? 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