Yes, knowing where you are is harder with a touch interface, but when it tells you completely wrong information, that is really awful. I hope I am wrong about pages and folders in the future, but the guy doing the presentation at WWDC was sure excited about having all your files sorted recent first in one list in Pages. Thanks for the conversation. It is helpful to have to articulate things from time-to-time. Later, Richard
_____ From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Scott Howell Sent: Friday, June 29, 2012 4:49 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: Advanced office accessibility features in Apple Mobile devices And Richard that is why I asked the question. Because the fact is there are varying degrees of accessibility. I think no matter the application there will be some effort to knowing exactly where you are when using a touch interface. Is Pages perfect? Of course not and hopefully Apple will improve it. As far as folders it is not completely clear yet where things will go with that. I'm not so sure APple intends to kill the idea of having any folders. I personally love folders and the entire idea of tree structures. On Jun 29, 2012, at 7:02 PM, Richard Turner wrote: Hi Scott, What is "reasonably efficient?" to me, the fact that Pages does not accurately report your location in the document with VoiceOver takes it out of the "reasonably efficient" category and puts it squarely in the "very inefficient" category. I don't expect much, but I do expect that if VoiceOver says I'm at the end of the document, I would actually be at the end, not on page 2 out of 5, or whatever. I understand by using a keyboard and spending extra time moving by line or word or even character I am more likely to get where I want to be, but that puts us back into inefficient. Besides, since Pages doesn't use folders, once you get very many documents in the list, it becomes very unmanageable. After listening to the Keynote address from this year's WWDC, that doesn't look like it is going to change in IOS6. I'll stick with plain text editors that allow me to organize files by folders like PlainText, NoteMaster and Meteor Notes. Again, this is for me, not for anyone else and I'm not saying anyone else can't use Pages in a way that satisfies them. I simply don't think it is worth $9.99. Richard _____ From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Scott Howell Sent: Friday, June 29, 2012 1:31 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: Advanced office accessibility features in Apple Mobile devices Richard, I'm not sure of your expectations, but I have used Pages, Numbers, and Keynote on the iPad and to some degree on the iPhone, and find these apps pretty accessible. Of course understanding the experience will be considerably different using a touch interface as opposed to a non-touch interface app. I think the greater challenge is keeping track of where you are. Now I have not spent sufficient time with these apps to really be an expert on how to address these issues, but I believe it is possible to work in a reasonably efficient way. Hopefully others will chime-in with their experiences. On Jun 29, 2012, at 12:54 PM, SYED IMRAN wrote: So do I need some additional scripts / add ons to work in office applications? From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Richard Turner Sent: 29 June 2012 21:56 To: [email protected] Subject: RE: Advanced office accessibility features in Apple Mobile devices Basically, you won't be able to do anything on your list with just VoiceOver. That is my opinion only, Richard _____ From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of SYED IMRAN Sent: Thursday, June 28, 2012 9:55 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Advanced office accessibility features in Apple Mobile devices Hi iPad, iPod and iPhone users Could you please share your views on how accessible are the office programs in iOS? How do you rate the depth of accessibility in office application with regard to some of these below features? ( completely inaccessible, somewhat accessible or fully accessible) (Please keep in mind that These are just a few items I'm looking at, but feel free to bring in your views on any other relevant ones that you feel worth mentioning here.) . Text attribute - font, colour, borders, shading, background, superscript, subscript, and so on. . Page layout - headers, footers, cover page templet, page breaks, page numbers and so on. . Text layout - paragraph, bullets, numbers, line spacing, tables and so on. . Objects - diagrams, charts, pictures, clip arts, symbols and so on. . Keynote - editing slides, slideshows, object positioning, animation and so on. . Calculation - formulas, fill series, cross reference of cells, generating pivot tables, pivot charts and so on. . Selection - selecting tables, selecting pages, worksheets, cells, slides, objects and so on. That's all I can think of now, let me know if something covertly or otherwise directly flashes in your mind Thanks Syed -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VIPhone" Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected]. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VIPhone" Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected]. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VIPhone" Google Group. 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