Alan,

I tried Keypass on my phone once but couldn't work it out.  Was there a Keypass 
as well as a Mini Keypass programme?  Anyway, I really want to use this kind of 
programme but couldn't work out what to do.

Can you give me any pointers, please, and walk me through to the point where I 
can use it successfully myself?

Carol P

  ----- Original Message ----- 

  From: Alan Lemly 
  To: [email protected] 
  Sent: Friday, February 27, 2015 4:01 PM
  Subject: RE: An interesting story that others might learn from. I certainly 
did.


  Neal,



  That was a piece of very bad luck. In fact, that's the sort of luck that 
could be catastrophic.



  I've blanked out on password characters too many times which is why I use 
KeePass on my computer and Mini KeePass on my iPhone 6 for tracking all my 
passwords. That way, all I have to do is remember one master password and then 
search for the particular password needed and copy and paste it to the 
appropriate place which helps when my brain and fingers are asleep.



  So glad you came up with a workaround to get your apps restored and your new 
phone up and running.



  Alan Lemly



  -----Original Message-----
  From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of 
Neal Ewers
  Sent: Friday, February 27, 2015 9:46 AM
  To: [email protected]
  Subject: RE: An interesting story that others might learn from. I certainly 
did.



  Don, I knew the password. It was the same one I used a couple weeks before to 
restore. Apple is as baffled as I am as to why it did not work. Of course, 
there is always the chance of operator error, I would not be the last to 
discover that something they thought they did perfectly was not the case. I 
also tried a number of variants around that password just in case. But, who 
knows, my fingers could have been asleep at the wheel that day. At any rate, it 
was scary to say the least. I guess the moral of this story is the one that 
people have been preaching on this list forever, and with good reason. Do not. 
That is, do not ever lose your password. 



  Thanks, Don. It’s nice to see you on the list.



  Neal



  From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of 
Don Breda
  Sent: Friday, February 27, 2015 3:30 AM
  To: [email protected]
  Subject: Re: An interesting story that others might learn from. I certainly 
did.



  Hi Neal.

  Very interesting and also scary.

  What I don't understand is why it didn't work in the first place.

  Was it because you didn't have the correct password?

  What you did in the beginning seems to me to be common sense and should have 
worked so the only conclusion I can come to is that you forgot your password.

  Knowing you though and reading your message it doesn't seem to me that you 
forgot it at all so what am I missing?

  Haven't had enough coffee yet so my apologies if thats the problem grin!

  Don



  On 2/27/2015 12:58 AM, Neal Ewers wrote:

    Well, I got my new iPhone 6 yesterday. I really like it. However, today has 
been a challenge. I had just restored my iPhone 5 from the encrypted backup a 
few weeks ago. The password worked. However, when I entered it to restore my 
new phone from the latest iPhone backup, the password did not work. I tried 
many times with many iterations. I even had a sighted friend type it in just in 
case my fingers were doing nasty things. No go. So, what to do. I knew Apple 
was in no way going to help, and I am very glad they did not. It is nice to 
know that my information is so secure that not even the real person can get the 
information if the password doesn’t work. They could not figure out why it 
didn’t work, but work, it did not.  So I being what I thought was smart 
thought, Well, I’ll just uncheck the encrypted checkbox and make a unencrypted 
backup and restore from that. Some of you already know what happened. It would 
not let me do that. Of course, I could be some stranger trying to get at my 
data, so when I unchecked the box, it once again asked for that allusive 
password. No go.



    So, I spent today syncing my phone and it did bring down all of my apps. No 
passwords, and all the apps in a very different order than my other phone. I 
was forced to move many of them to the place I wanted them to be. Much later 
and much much practice of moving apps, I struck gold.



    I was on the phone with Apple, Verizon, much of the day. Someone finally 
suggested a way. Backup from iCloud. Now before you wonder why I didn’t think 
of that, I actually did. The sync didn’t download my contacts, so I went to 
iCloud and did a restore from iCloud earlier in the day. It brought down the 
contacts, but nothing else was changed. The apps were still in their random 
order. Finally someone gave me the one piece of advice that saved me. I had to 
first delete my iPhone in order to have iCloud bring down the place holders for 
the apps and download them from the iTunes store. Wow, I thought. A donting 
project, but very cool if it worked. At least I thought it was going to bee 
cool until my modem started acting up and nothing would work. So here I am with 
a totally erased, useless iPhone. Eventually my modem struggled through and I 
now have all of my apps in the exact order they were in before and passwords 
too.  So, there you have it. I talked with a bunch of really smart people both 
at Apple and Verizon. And now, I am one happy camper.



    If this lengthy tome helps someone, so much the better. Of course, the 
first thing I did after this was all done was to backup my phone.



    I do like the iPhone 6, perhaps even more in that I had to really work for 
it with the help of some very nice people.



    Thanks for listening to my very long tale.



    Neal

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