Hi *Brett,*
**
As you so well explained, people have choices. If they want the
MBraille, it’s a choice and those who want it and can afford it do buy
it like you did. Those of us who can’t afford it don’t buy it and
have free options. That’s the best situation possible. I don’t think
a developer has to work for very little just because some of us can’t
afford the product. A person evaluates his/her product, decide how
much they want to charge for it and, those of us who want pay for it
and those of us who can’t afford it have choices. I don’t believe in
stating that an app is over-priced. It is what it is and we can buy
it or leave it. The KNFB app is a lot more expensive and those of us
who wanted it paid for it and are using it. Those of who couldn’t
afford it are using some of the very good free ones and that’s life.
I am one of these blind people who doesn’t think that people have to
work for us for nothing or almost nothing just because. I do
understand that many of us are unemployed but that is not the
developpers problem, its ours to deal with.
Just an opinion
Ron & Danvers
*From:*viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] *On Behalf Of *Brett
*Sent:* Monday, June 01, 2015 6:30 AM
*To:* viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
*Subject:* RE: Pricing and so forth was Re: Bizarre issue re. mBraille
as a third-party keyboard
Hi,
Here is just my opinion.
I think the initial purchase of the app 33AUD was worth every cent, I
think the third-party keyboard is overpriced and taking the micky a
bit. Given that other third-party keyboards are free or under 2.50 and
there was no initial purchase price. The other third-party keyboards
include word prediction and spell checking in most cases, which
MBraille doesn’t.
There are three advantages with MBraille as a third-party keyboard:
1.You can do a one finger flick up to read what you have written. With
iOS Braille, you must dismiss the keyboard before you can read the
message. You then need to edit the message using the standard keyboard.
2.If when reading the message, you notice a mistake, you can navigate
to it and correct it still using the MBraille keyboard, as long as you
don’t have direct input enabled. I haven’t found a reason to enable
direct input yet.
3.When writing email addresses or web addresses with iOS Braille, I
have found when writing the dot com part, you need to braille the
period, do a space to enter the period, delete the space then write
the com bit. You don’t have to muck around like this with MBraille. If
someone knows of a way to do this with iOS braille, please let me know.
**
*Although these advantages are nice, you need to decide if its worth
the extra money over iOS Braille. I was curious and could afford it,
so I gave it a go to satisfy my curiosity. I don’t regret it, but
still think its overpriced as you do loose some MBraille features in
the third-party keyboard. For Example, spell checking is not available
and if you don’t want to put mBraille first in line in your keyboard
list, you need to switch to it every time you want to use it and it is
much easier and faster to bring up the iOS braille keyboard than the
MBraille one. *
**
*Just my opinion, hopefully it helps you to make an informed decision.*
**
*Cheers,*
*Brett.*
**
**
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[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] *On Behalf Of *Krister Ekstrom
*Sent:* Monday, 1 June 2015 7:26 PM
*To:* viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
*Subject:* Pricing and so forth was Re: Bizarre issue re. mBraille as
a third-party keyboard
Hi, It’s true that Harry has put on his thinking cap when he made this
app. I only reacted to the price because there were so many price
alternatives that were unclear, and there are many features i’m not
sure i would use, but then again, what i use and when may very well
vary. I like the idea of the shortcuts to post to various sources.
Well we’ll see if i get around to purchasing it or if i keep switching
between Fleksy and the stock keyboard. I would be curious though to
find out how mBraille works in certain situations.
/Krister
1 jun 2015 kl. 10:45 skrev Richard Turner <rich...@turner42.com
<mailto:rich...@turner42.com>>:
Since I now use mBraille instead of an external keyboard, I have
no issues with the price.
On the mBraille list, Harri admitted not being clear when he
changed a few things and dropped the early products.
I do think he messed up with the marketing side of things, and
yes, the app has a few issues as a third party keyboard which he
is working hard to fix, though some of the issues are because of
the way Apple restricts developers.
He only included the third party keyboard after enough people
begged him to do it.and given the way Apple does things, it was a
much bigger job than expected.
But, it works well in most cases.
I do not know what is causing Michele's issue. I can use it when
creating or replying to text messages just fine.
Back to the pricing, if you paid what was $29.99 in the US, you
have to buy the third party keyboard for, $9.99 or buy both the
third party keyboard and Dropbox accessibility for $14.99.
Now, there are only two pricing options beyond the free version.
You can buy just the third party keyboard for $9.99 or the "Full
Version" for $39.99 which includes dropbox and third party
keyboard capability.
Sory I only know the US prices.
Could Harri have done the amount of work he did to make this app
and charged less? I have no idea.
I'm not a programmer and have no idea how many hours it takes to
do what he has done.
But, I do know that from the first release, he has out performed
any other attempt at a braille entry system.
JMO,
Richard
On Jun 1, 2015, at 1:03 AM, Krister Ekstrom
<kris...@kristersplace.com <mailto:kris...@kristersplace.com>> wrote:
Hi, I think that A, the program is over priced but we can’t do
much about it since we are a small market so guess we’ll have
to be satisfied with it or not purchase it. B, the price table
is very vague. I don’t know what i get for the amount i paid,
at least i got very confused when it came to what i got for
the price. There’s a full price but then, do you have to pay
more in order to get the third party keyboard support?
/Krister
31 maj 2015 kl. 23:19 skrev Richard Turner
<rich...@turner42.com <mailto:rich...@turner42.com>>:
Yes it is.
Are you using the Away mode layout?
When you select mBraille as the keyboard, you should hear
mBraille spoken and then be able to start writing.
Maybe you could say which device and what mode, etc.
Do you have direct input on or off?
Richard
"The highest reward for a person's toil is not what they
get for it, but what they become by it."
- John Ruskin
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<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com]*On Behalf Of*Michelle
McQuigge
*Sent:*Sunday, May 31, 2015 1:26 PM
*To:*viphone@googlegroups.com
<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
*Subject:*RE: Bizarre issue re. mBraille as a third-party
keyboard
Richard,
I purchased what was advertised as the full mBraille
program yesterday. It cost about $45 Canadian and
definitely includes dropbox support. At that price, surely
third-party keyboard permissions are included too?
*From:*viphone@googlegroups.com
<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com]*On Behalf Of*Richard Turner
*Sent:*Sunday, May 31, 2015 11:05 AM
*To:*viphone@googlegroups.com
<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
*Subject:*Re: Bizarre issue re. mBraille as a third-party
keyboard
If you are trying to put direct input on, it is dot 6 not
dot 3.
If you only paid $29.99 you don't have full keyboard I
bought mBraille at $29.99 when it first came out and then
finally paid $14.99 to get both Dropbox and third party
keyboard support.
It works great on messages, mail, and pretty much
everywhere else I have tried it. At least as long as I
switch back to the standard keyboard with a three finger
swipe right when I am done. Things are a bit odd if I just
dismiss the keyboard with the three finger swipe left.
Richard
On May 31, 2015, at 6:51 AM, Michelle McQuigge
<michelle.mcqui...@gmail.com
<mailto:michelle.mcqui...@gmail.com>> wrote:
Hi all,
I'm running into something that strikes me as odd when
trying to use mBraille as a third-party keyboard. As a
caveat, I'm running IOS8.3 on an iPhone 6 and have
enabled full access using the full, paid version of
the app.
I only seem to be able to use mBraille as a
third-party keyboard if I access functions through the
app first. For instance, if I open messages in order
to reply to someone and select mBraille as the
keyboard of choice, basically nothing happens. I can't
activate the braille keyboard no matter what I do. It
clicks, but nothing is inputted. I tried holding down
what should be the dot 3 and swiping right, but it
doesn't seem to recognize the dots. The only button I
can find is, mercifully, the one to return to my
primary keyboard. If I open mBraille and then select
messages, though, then everything works as expected.
Perhaps I'm misunderstanding, but are we not supposed
to be able to summon mBraille functionality from
within whatever app we choose now as opposed to going
through mBraille itself first?
If anyone has an idea to either correct something I'm
doing wrong or to address the problem, I'd be really
grateful.
Thanks,
Michelle
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