Hi,
Here is just my opinion. I think the initial purchase of the app 33AUD was worth every cent, I think the third-party keyboard is overpriced and taking the micky a bit. Given that other third-party keyboards are free or under 2.50 and there was no initial purchase price. The other third-party keyboards include word prediction and spell checking in most cases, which MBraille doesn’t. There are three advantages with MBraille as a third-party keyboard: 1. You can do a one finger flick up to read what you have written. With iOS Braille, you must dismiss the keyboard before you can read the message. You then need to edit the message using the standard keyboard. 2. If when reading the message, you notice a mistake, you can navigate to it and correct it still using the MBraille keyboard, as long as you don’t have direct input enabled. I haven’t found a reason to enable direct input yet. 3. When writing email addresses or web addresses with iOS Braille, I have found when writing the dot com part, you need to braille the period, do a space to enter the period, delete the space then write the com bit. You don’t have to muck around like this with MBraille. If someone knows of a way to do this with iOS braille, please let me know. Although these advantages are nice, you need to decide if its worth the extra money over iOS Braille. I was curious and could afford it, so I gave it a go to satisfy my curiosity. I don’t regret it, but still think its overpriced as you do loose some MBraille features in the third-party keyboard. For Example, spell checking is not available and if you don’t want to put mBraille first in line in your keyboard list, you need to switch to it every time you want to use it and it is much easier and faster to bring up the iOS braille keyboard than the MBraille one. Just my opinion, hopefully it helps you to make an informed decision. Cheers, Brett. From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Krister Ekstrom Sent: Monday, 1 June 2015 7:26 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Pricing and so forth was Re: Bizarre issue re. mBraille as a third-party keyboard Hi, It’s true that Harry has put on his thinking cap when he made this app. I only reacted to the price because there were so many price alternatives that were unclear, and there are many features i’m not sure i would use, but then again, what i use and when may very well vary. I like the idea of the shortcuts to post to various sources. Well we’ll see if i get around to purchasing it or if i keep switching between Fleksy and the stock keyboard. I would be curious though to find out how mBraille works in certain situations. /Krister 1 jun 2015 kl. 10:45 skrev Richard Turner <rich...@turner42.com <mailto:rich...@turner42.com> >: Since I now use mBraille instead of an external keyboard, I have no issues with the price. On the mBraille list, Harri admitted not being clear when he changed a few things and dropped the early products. I do think he messed up with the marketing side of things, and yes, the app has a few issues as a third party keyboard which he is working hard to fix, though some of the issues are because of the way Apple restricts developers. He only included the third party keyboard after enough people begged him to do it.and given the way Apple does things, it was a much bigger job than expected. But, it works well in most cases. I do not know what is causing Michele's issue. I can use it when creating or replying to text messages just fine. Back to the pricing, if you paid what was $29.99 in the US, you have to buy the third party keyboard for, $9.99 or buy both the third party keyboard and Dropbox accessibility for $14.99. Now, there are only two pricing options beyond the free version. You can buy just the third party keyboard for $9.99 or the "Full Version" for $39.99 which includes dropbox and third party keyboard capability. Sory I only know the US prices. Could Harri have done the amount of work he did to make this app and charged less? I have no idea. I'm not a programmer and have no idea how many hours it takes to do what he has done. But, I do know that from the first release, he has out performed any other attempt at a braille entry system. JMO, Richard On Jun 1, 2015, at 1:03 AM, Krister Ekstrom <kris...@kristersplace.com <mailto:kris...@kristersplace.com> > wrote: Hi, I think that A, the program is over priced but we can’t do much about it since we are a small market so guess we’ll have to be satisfied with it or not purchase it. B, the price table is very vague. I don’t know what i get for the amount i paid, at least i got very confused when it came to what i got for the price. There’s a full price but then, do you have to pay more in order to get the third party keyboard support? /Krister 31 maj 2015 kl. 23:19 skrev Richard Turner <rich...@turner42.com <mailto:rich...@turner42.com> >: Yes it is. Are you using the Away mode layout? When you select mBraille as the keyboard, you should hear mBraille spoken and then be able to start writing. Maybe you could say which device and what mode, etc. Do you have direct input on or off? Richard "The highest reward for a person's toil is not what they get for it, but what they become by it." - John Ruskin From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Michelle McQuigge Sent: Sunday, May 31, 2015 1:26 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> Subject: RE: Bizarre issue re. mBraille as a third-party keyboard Richard, I purchased what was advertised as the full mBraille program yesterday. It cost about $45 Canadian and definitely includes dropbox support. At that price, surely third-party keyboard permissions are included too? From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Richard Turner Sent: Sunday, May 31, 2015 11:05 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Bizarre issue re. mBraille as a third-party keyboard If you are trying to put direct input on, it is dot 6 not dot 3. If you only paid $29.99 you don't have full keyboard I bought mBraille at $29.99 when it first came out and then finally paid $14.99 to get both Dropbox and third party keyboard support. It works great on messages, mail, and pretty much everywhere else I have tried it. At least as long as I switch back to the standard keyboard with a three finger swipe right when I am done. Things are a bit odd if I just dismiss the keyboard with the three finger swipe left. 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