Hi Daniel, I am not a programmer, obviously. And perhaps you are, or know enough about it or how Apple does it, to know that Apple couldn't fix it without breaking something. I just wonder if there isn't something in common that all these programs that don't scroll well for voiceover have. And maybe Apple could work around the issue, since these big companies like Amazon and Netflix do not seem terribly interested in helping us out. The zite app is another. That used to be great then, a couple of years ago, CNN bought it. And their programmers broke it. Despite many requests to have it fixed, it is still broken. So, it doesn't seem like this is a problem that will go away. And it doesn't seem like the big developers are very interested in making it go away. I know many people have asked Netflix to make their programs more accessible all to no avail, as far as I can see. Mary
Sent from my iPhone > On Aug 15, 2015, at 4:41 PM, Daniel Miller <[email protected]> wrote: > > Hi Mary, > > I’ve seen those problems. Those are app-specific problems that the developers > need to fix. Apple can’t do anything on a system-wide level to fix that, > unless they themselves break something. > >> On Aug 15, 2015, at 6:25 PM, Mary Otten <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> Hi all, >> I am not using the beta, so I am not on the beta users list. I suspect that >> some who are also here. And that is why I am raising this question. I don't >> expect an answer as to whether it has been fixed, because we all know about >> the glorious and stupid nDA for a public beta, which is being violated all >> over the place in the mainstream. But, never mind. It seems like there are a >> certain number of apps or things within apps, where voiceover will not >> scroll. Or the machine will not scroll with voice over enabled using the >> three finger flick up or the three finger flick left or right. Cases in >> point are Netflix and the book browser within Amazon Kindle when running it >> on an iPad. I don't know frankly, if this is an Apple problem or something >> that the developers should fix. What I do know, is that if Apple can fix >> it, it would be great, since the developers are not likely to do so. These >> are just the things that come immediately to mind. I know I have seen this >> problem of the device and voiceover not scrolling together, or not scrolling >> when voiceover is on. And it is a big deal that Apple should fix if they >> can, even if it isn't technically their problem. We, the end-users are the >> loser. >> Mary >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >> -- >> The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. >> All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any >> questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a >> member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators >> directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list >> can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/. >> --- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "VIPhone" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to [email protected]. >> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > > -- > The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. > All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any > questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a > member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators > directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list > can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/. > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "VIPhone" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to [email protected]. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
