Mary, are you talking about the Amazon Kindle app? I thought you were talking 
about the Amazon app, the one that's just called Amazon and is strictly for 
buying products. If you are indeed talking about the Kindle app, I can't help 
you there. I've only used it to read books, not done anything else with it.


Thanks,
Ari

> On Aug 15, 2015, at 7:42 PM, Mary Otten <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> Hi Ari, 
> I am not sure I understand how this is supposed to work. Go into the book 
> browser on your iPad mini or iPad if you have one. I think just before book 
> categories listing, you will find something that says start a new series. It 
> might be just after all the categories. I honestly don't remember, but I 
> think it is before. Double tap on that new series thing. As you say, there 
> will be no clicks, but the page loads. You will then see that there are 
> certain number of series. In my case, it was said to be 29. If you start 
> flicking through, you will see that voiceover will focus on each one, one 
> after the other. However, if you flick past those series which are available 
> on the first page, and double tap one of them, you will go nowhere, because 
> the focus has not followed the voiceover cursor. So I'm not sure how your 
> scenario fits this scenario.
> Mary
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Aug 15, 2015, at 6:37 PM, Gmail <[email protected]> wrote:
>> 
>> Mary, one way that I found to make the Amazon app play nicely when scrolling 
>> is to put VoiceOver focus on to something, then wait a few seconds while 
>> whatever product page you've just  double-tapped on finishes loading 
>> completely. There aren't any clicks, like you would get in Safari, but just 
>> wait between three and five seconds, and everything should be fine. After 
>> you've found something on the screen to focus on, do your normal 
>> three-finger swipe up, and the pages should start scrolling fine. Hope this 
>> helps.
>> 
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> Ari
>> 
>>> On Aug 15, 2015, at 5:26 PM, Mary Otten <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi Daniel,
>>> I am not a programmer, obviously. And perhaps you are, or know enough about 
>>> it or how Apple does it, to know that Apple couldn't fix it without 
>>> breaking something. I just wonder if there isn't something in common that 
>>> all these programs that don't scroll well for voiceover have. And maybe 
>>> Apple could work around the issue, since these big companies like Amazon 
>>> and Netflix do not seem terribly interested in helping us out. The zite app 
>>> is another. That used to be great then, a couple of years ago, CNN bought 
>>> it. And their programmers broke it. Despite many requests to have it fixed, 
>>> it is still broken. So, it doesn't seem like this is a problem that will go 
>>> away. And it doesn't seem like the big developers are very interested in 
>>> making it go away. I know many people have asked Netflix to make their 
>>> programs more accessible all to no avail, as far as I can see.
>>> Mary
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
>>>> On Aug 15, 2015, at 4:41 PM, Daniel Miller <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Hi Mary,
>>>> 
>>>> I’ve seen those problems. Those are app-specific problems that the 
>>>> developers need to fix. Apple can’t do anything on a system-wide level to 
>>>> fix that, unless they themselves break something.
>>>> 
>>>>> On Aug 15, 2015, at 6:25 PM, Mary Otten <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Hi all,
>>>>> I am not using the beta, so I am not on the beta users list. I suspect 
>>>>> that some who are also here. And that is why I am raising this question. 
>>>>> I don't expect an answer as to whether it has been fixed, because we all 
>>>>> know about the glorious and stupid nDA for a public beta, which is being 
>>>>> violated all over the place in the mainstream. But, never mind. It seems 
>>>>> like there are a certain number of apps or things within apps, where 
>>>>> voiceover will not scroll. Or the machine will not scroll with voice over 
>>>>> enabled using the three finger flick up or the three finger flick left or 
>>>>> right. Cases in point are Netflix and the book browser within Amazon 
>>>>> Kindle when running it on an iPad. I don't know frankly, if this is an 
>>>>> Apple problem or something that the developers  should fix. What I do 
>>>>> know, is that if Apple can fix it, it would be great, since the 
>>>>> developers are not likely to do so. These are just the things that come 
>>>>> immediately to mind. I know I have seen this problem of the device and 
>>>>> voiceover not scrolling together, or not scrolling when voiceover is on. 
>>>>> And it is a big deal that Apple should fix  if they can,  even if it 
>>>>> isn't technically their problem. We, the end-users are the loser.
>>>>> Mary
>>>>> 
>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
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