Mary, one way that I found to make the Amazon app play nicely when scrolling is 
to put VoiceOver focus on to something, then wait a few seconds while whatever 
product page you've just  double-tapped on finishes loading completely. There 
aren't any clicks, like you would get in Safari, but just wait between three 
and five seconds, and everything should be fine. After you've found something 
on the screen to focus on, do your normal three-finger swipe up, and the pages 
should start scrolling fine. Hope this helps.


Thanks,
Ari

> On Aug 15, 2015, at 5:26 PM, Mary Otten <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> Hi Daniel,
> I am not a programmer, obviously. And perhaps you are, or know enough about 
> it or how Apple does it, to know that Apple couldn't fix it without breaking 
> something. I just wonder if there isn't something in common that all these 
> programs that don't scroll well for voiceover have. And maybe Apple could 
> work around the issue, since these big companies like Amazon and Netflix do 
> not seem terribly interested in helping us out. The zite app is another. That 
> used to be great then, a couple of years ago, CNN bought it. And their 
> programmers broke it. Despite many requests to have it fixed, it is still 
> broken. So, it doesn't seem like this is a problem that will go away. And it 
> doesn't seem like the big developers are very interested in making it go 
> away. I know many people have asked Netflix to make their programs more 
> accessible all to no avail, as far as I can see.
> Mary
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Aug 15, 2015, at 4:41 PM, Daniel Miller <[email protected]> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Mary,
>> 
>> I’ve seen those problems. Those are app-specific problems that the 
>> developers need to fix. Apple can’t do anything on a system-wide level to 
>> fix that, unless they themselves break something.
>> 
>>> On Aug 15, 2015, at 6:25 PM, Mary Otten <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi all,
>>> I am not using the beta, so I am not on the beta users list. I suspect that 
>>> some who are also here. And that is why I am raising this question. I don't 
>>> expect an answer as to whether it has been fixed, because we all know about 
>>> the glorious and stupid nDA for a public beta, which is being violated all 
>>> over the place in the mainstream. But, never mind. It seems like there are 
>>> a certain number of apps or things within apps, where voiceover will not 
>>> scroll. Or the machine will not scroll with voice over enabled using the 
>>> three finger flick up or the three finger flick left or right. Cases in 
>>> point are Netflix and the book browser within Amazon Kindle when running it 
>>> on an iPad. I don't know frankly, if this is an Apple problem or something 
>>> that the developers  should fix. What I do know, is that if Apple can fix 
>>> it, it would be great, since the developers are not likely to do so. These 
>>> are just the things that come immediately to mind. I know I have seen this 
>>> problem of the device and voiceover not scrolling together, or not 
>>> scrolling when voiceover is on. And it is a big deal that Apple should fix  
>>> if they can,  even if it isn't technically their problem. We, the end-users 
>>> are the loser.
>>> Mary
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
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