I haven't noticed any sluggishness with the male Siri voice when I'm using it for Voiceover. It seems fine.
> On Sep 16, 2015, at 19:48, John Diakogeorgiou <[email protected]> wrote: > > I find it works well but will try another voice to see if I am wrong. > > On 9/16/15, Shai <[email protected]> wrote: >> Hi, >> The setting of the Siri voices for VoiceOver was mentioned on >> AppleVis; however, it was also indicated that the responsiveness is >> quite sluggish while navigating. >> Have you noticed this? >> >> >> On 9/16/15, John Diakogeorgiou <[email protected]> wrote: >>> I've been using a VaroUltra and it works fine. Also one thing which no >>> one has mentioned is that you can now use the Siri male and female >>> voices for voice over. Just know that the male voice pronounces some >>> vowels strangely. >>> >>> On 9/16/15, Jonathan Mosen <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> Hi Neal. My understanding is that if you are affected, it will also >>>> happen >>>> if you have your phone on silent. If you just have your phone unmuted >>>> and >>>> on >>>> speaker, it appears to be OK as far as I know. >>>> Jonathan Mosen >>>> Mosen Consulting >>>> Blindness technology eBooks, tutorials and training >>>> http://Mosen.org >>>> >>>>> On 17/09/2015, at 9:38 AM, Neal Ewers <[email protected]> >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Jonathan. Is this phone problem a problem only when using something >>>>> connected to the phone such as ear buds or a bluetooth device? Or, does >>>>> it >>>>> also effect phone calls if you are using none of these devices and only >>>>> using the microphone and speaker in the phone? >>>>> >>>>> Thanks. >>>>> >>>>> Neal >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> From: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> >>>>> [mailto:[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>] On >>>>> Behalf Of Jonathan Mosen >>>>> Sent: Wednesday, September 16, 2015 12:15 PM >>>>> To: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> >>>>> Subject: My top iOS 9 Bugs >>>>> >>>>> Hi everyone, now that the NDA is lifted, here are some things I think >>>>> you >>>>> might like to be aware of in iOS 9. >>>>> I am enthusiastic about iOS 9. It is significantly more responsive than >>>>> its predecessor, and there are many new features that I'm sure you'll >>>>> enjoy. Unfortunately, there are also some VoiceOver bugs in iOS 9 that >>>>> range from minor annoyances to potentially critical, depending on how >>>>> you >>>>> use your device and whether you find yourself affected. Here are just a >>>>> few that you might like to take into consideration before deciding >>>>> whether >>>>> to wait for a bug fix release before installing iOS 9. Remember that a >>>>> few >>>>> days following iOS 9's release, it will not be possible to downgrade >>>>> again, so you should consider the upgrade to iOS 9 a one-way trip, and >>>>> proceed with caution if anything below concerns you. >>>>> 1. Audio routing bug. This is potentially the most significant >>>>> accessibility bug I can recall ever to slip through an iOS release, due >>>>> to >>>>> the number of people who may be affected. Not everyone will be, and at >>>>> present, even after extensive testing with a range of people owning >>>>> different devices, I have no information about why it affects some >>>>> users, >>>>> but not others. It is not device specific, for example it is happening >>>>> to >>>>> me on my iPhone 6 Plus, but I know iPhone 6 Plus users where the >>>>> problem >>>>> isn't so severe. Nor does it seem to be affected by any setting. If >>>>> you're >>>>> lucky, it won't happen to you, but the only way I am aware of to >>>>> determine >>>>> this is to upgrade. >>>>> This bug may affect you when you have earbuds or headphones connected >>>>> to >>>>> the headphone socket of your iPhone. The primary way the audio routing >>>>> bug >>>>> manifests itself is when you receive an incoming phone or FaceTime >>>>> call. >>>>> You can usually hear if you're going to be affected by the bug because >>>>> your ring-tone will fade in and out, rather like the way VOiceOver >>>>> causes >>>>> system audio to fade in and out when audio ducking is enabled. At this >>>>> point, if you press the power button to silence the ringer and then >>>>> flick >>>>> through the screen, you will find that not only has VOiceOver become >>>>> unresponsive, but the entire phone has as well. >>>>> If you don't press the power button while the phone is ringing, but >>>>> instead opt to flick through the iPHone's screen to locate the Answer >>>>> button or review caller ID information, VoiceOver may not speak at all. >>>>> Finally, if you attempt to answer the incoming call with a two-finger >>>>> double-tap, you may not be able to, since VoiceOver has effectively >>>>> locked >>>>> up. >>>>> The bottom line is that if you have earbuds connected, you may not be >>>>> able >>>>> to answer a call. >>>>> Some people have also reported similar problems answering calls when >>>>> their >>>>> phone is set to silent. >>>>> If you rely on your phone for business or safety, this could be a deal >>>>> breaker in terms of upgrading at this point. >>>>> What makes this bug so fascinating is that not only is it completely >>>>> absent for some people, but of those who experience it, not all >>>>> symptoms >>>>> are present for all users. For example, some people experience the >>>>> issues >>>>> I have described when they press the power button to mute the ringer, >>>>> but >>>>> not when the phone is ringing. Others can answer a call by pressing the >>>>> button on their EarPods, while others cannot. >>>>> If you upgrade and are affected by this, here are a few things to try. >>>>> (A) If you have the more moderate version of this bug, avoid pressing >>>>> the >>>>> power button when you receive an incoming call. >>>>> (B) Turning off audio ducking seems to help a little for some users. >>>>> (C) If you can't answer a call with a two-finger double-tap, try >>>>> pressing >>>>> the button on your EarPods or similar device if you have such a device >>>>> connected. >>>>> (D) If all else fails, you can disconnect any device from the headphone >>>>> jack, answer the call with a two-finger double-tap, then reconnect the >>>>> device to the headphone jack. >>>>> (E) Given the critical nature of this bug, if you've upgraded and now >>>>> find >>>>> yourself afflicted by it, enrol in the iOS beta program so you can >>>>> receive >>>>> early copies of any fixes Apple is working on. But keep in mind that >>>>> since >>>>> you will be running beta software, you may well be swapping one set of >>>>> bugs for another. >>>>> 2. Bluetooth keyboard support unreliable. Sometimes, users may input >>>>> double letters when typing. This is a bug that was introduced in the >>>>> iOS >>>>> 8 >>>>> cycle, and can easily be worked around by toggling VoiceOver off and >>>>> on. >>>>> However, a new bug now exists where at times, no text is entered into a >>>>> field at all when VO is active. Toggling VO doesn't help, nor does >>>>> switching the keyboard off and on. The only immediate remedy is to turn >>>>> Vo >>>>> off, and keep typing without it. If you turn VO back on again, the >>>>> arrow >>>>> keys don't work when you're trying to navigate your text, and you can't >>>>> edit it. >>>>> 3. In the Today view of Notification Center, VO frequently restarts >>>>> itself >>>>> when flicking through your widgets, and sometimes the phone locks up >>>>> entirely. >>>>> 4. It's much less likely you can return to your previous position on >>>>> screen after taking an action. For example, flick through the list of >>>>> podcasts in Downcast. Find a podcast you wish to download. Double-tap, >>>>> and >>>>> a shortcut menu appears. Choose Download. You should then be able to >>>>> tap >>>>> on the screen and return to the list where you left off. This worked in >>>>> previous iOS versions, but it doesn't work now, you're returned to near >>>>> the top of the list. If you're in a large news-related podcast where >>>>> there >>>>> are dozens of episodes, it takes a lot of effort to get back to your >>>>> place. This also impacts a number of other apps including some Twitter >>>>> clients. >>>>> 5. Less reliable audio ducking. You may find that if you use VoiceOver >>>>> while listening to audio from another app, audio ducking does not work >>>>> as >>>>> well as it used to. Some times, it works perfectly, while at others, >>>>> VoiceOver ducks the audio but does not restore the app to its normal >>>>> level >>>>> when VO has finished speaking. On other occasions, VoiceOver won't duck >>>>> the audio at all, as if audio ducking had been disabled. If VoiceOver >>>>> has >>>>> not restored system audio to its usual level, sometimes toggling speech >>>>> off and on again with a three-finger double-tap will help. 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