Not here on my iPhone 5s. Doubt it would be on my iPad Mini 2 either, but can't say for sure as haven't tried them on there. But since they use the same hardware in principle, the Siri voices should work fine on there also. Chris > On 17 Sep 2015, at 01:17, Shai <[email protected]> wrote: > > Hi, > The setting of the Siri voices for VoiceOver was mentioned on > AppleVis; however, it was also indicated that the responsiveness is > quite sluggish while navigating. > Have you noticed this? > > > On 9/16/15, John Diakogeorgiou <[email protected]> wrote: >> I've been using a VaroUltra and it works fine. Also one thing which no >> one has mentioned is that you can now use the Siri male and female >> voices for voice over. Just know that the male voice pronounces some >> vowels strangely. >> >> On 9/16/15, Jonathan Mosen <[email protected]> wrote: >>> Hi Neal. My understanding is that if you are affected, it will also >>> happen >>> if you have your phone on silent. If you just have your phone unmuted and >>> on >>> speaker, it appears to be OK as far as I know. >>> Jonathan Mosen >>> Mosen Consulting >>> Blindness technology eBooks, tutorials and training >>> http://Mosen.org >>> >>>> On 17/09/2015, at 9:38 AM, Neal Ewers <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>>> Jonathan. Is this phone problem a problem only when using something >>>> connected to the phone such as ear buds or a bluetooth device? Or, does >>>> it >>>> also effect phone calls if you are using none of these devices and only >>>> using the microphone and speaker in the phone? >>>> >>>> Thanks. >>>> >>>> Neal >>>> >>>> >>>> From: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> >>>> [mailto:[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>] On >>>> Behalf Of Jonathan Mosen >>>> Sent: Wednesday, September 16, 2015 12:15 PM >>>> To: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> >>>> Subject: My top iOS 9 Bugs >>>> >>>> Hi everyone, now that the NDA is lifted, here are some things I think >>>> you >>>> might like to be aware of in iOS 9. >>>> I am enthusiastic about iOS 9. It is significantly more responsive than >>>> its predecessor, and there are many new features that I'm sure you'll >>>> enjoy. Unfortunately, there are also some VoiceOver bugs in iOS 9 that >>>> range from minor annoyances to potentially critical, depending on how >>>> you >>>> use your device and whether you find yourself affected. Here are just a >>>> few that you might like to take into consideration before deciding >>>> whether >>>> to wait for a bug fix release before installing iOS 9. Remember that a >>>> few >>>> days following iOS 9's release, it will not be possible to downgrade >>>> again, so you should consider the upgrade to iOS 9 a one-way trip, and >>>> proceed with caution if anything below concerns you. >>>> 1. Audio routing bug. This is potentially the most significant >>>> accessibility bug I can recall ever to slip through an iOS release, due >>>> to >>>> the number of people who may be affected. Not everyone will be, and at >>>> present, even after extensive testing with a range of people owning >>>> different devices, I have no information about why it affects some >>>> users, >>>> but not others. It is not device specific, for example it is happening >>>> to >>>> me on my iPhone 6 Plus, but I know iPhone 6 Plus users where the problem >>>> isn't so severe. Nor does it seem to be affected by any setting. If >>>> you're >>>> lucky, it won't happen to you, but the only way I am aware of to >>>> determine >>>> this is to upgrade. >>>> This bug may affect you when you have earbuds or headphones connected to >>>> the headphone socket of your iPhone. The primary way the audio routing >>>> bug >>>> manifests itself is when you receive an incoming phone or FaceTime call. >>>> You can usually hear if you're going to be affected by the bug because >>>> your ring-tone will fade in and out, rather like the way VOiceOver >>>> causes >>>> system audio to fade in and out when audio ducking is enabled. At this >>>> point, if you press the power button to silence the ringer and then >>>> flick >>>> through the screen, you will find that not only has VOiceOver become >>>> unresponsive, but the entire phone has as well. >>>> If you don't press the power button while the phone is ringing, but >>>> instead opt to flick through the iPHone's screen to locate the Answer >>>> button or review caller ID information, VoiceOver may not speak at all. >>>> Finally, if you attempt to answer the incoming call with a two-finger >>>> double-tap, you may not be able to, since VoiceOver has effectively >>>> locked >>>> up. >>>> The bottom line is that if you have earbuds connected, you may not be >>>> able >>>> to answer a call. >>>> Some people have also reported similar problems answering calls when >>>> their >>>> phone is set to silent. >>>> If you rely on your phone for business or safety, this could be a deal >>>> breaker in terms of upgrading at this point. >>>> What makes this bug so fascinating is that not only is it completely >>>> absent for some people, but of those who experience it, not all symptoms >>>> are present for all users. For example, some people experience the >>>> issues >>>> I have described when they press the power button to mute the ringer, >>>> but >>>> not when the phone is ringing. Others can answer a call by pressing the >>>> button on their EarPods, while others cannot. >>>> If you upgrade and are affected by this, here are a few things to try. >>>> (A) If you have the more moderate version of this bug, avoid pressing >>>> the >>>> power button when you receive an incoming call. >>>> (B) Turning off audio ducking seems to help a little for some users. >>>> (C) If you can't answer a call with a two-finger double-tap, try >>>> pressing >>>> the button on your EarPods or similar device if you have such a device >>>> connected. >>>> (D) If all else fails, you can disconnect any device from the headphone >>>> jack, answer the call with a two-finger double-tap, then reconnect the >>>> device to the headphone jack. >>>> (E) Given the critical nature of this bug, if you've upgraded and now >>>> find >>>> yourself afflicted by it, enrol in the iOS beta program so you can >>>> receive >>>> early copies of any fixes Apple is working on. But keep in mind that >>>> since >>>> you will be running beta software, you may well be swapping one set of >>>> bugs for another. >>>> 2. Bluetooth keyboard support unreliable. Sometimes, users may input >>>> double letters when typing. This is a bug that was introduced in the iOS >>>> 8 >>>> cycle, and can easily be worked around by toggling VoiceOver off and on. >>>> However, a new bug now exists where at times, no text is entered into a >>>> field at all when VO is active. Toggling VO doesn't help, nor does >>>> switching the keyboard off and on. The only immediate remedy is to turn >>>> Vo >>>> off, and keep typing without it. If you turn VO back on again, the arrow >>>> keys don't work when you're trying to navigate your text, and you can't >>>> edit it. >>>> 3. In the Today view of Notification Center, VO frequently restarts >>>> itself >>>> when flicking through your widgets, and sometimes the phone locks up >>>> entirely. >>>> 4. It's much less likely you can return to your previous position on >>>> screen after taking an action. For example, flick through the list of >>>> podcasts in Downcast. Find a podcast you wish to download. Double-tap, >>>> and >>>> a shortcut menu appears. Choose Download. You should then be able to tap >>>> on the screen and return to the list where you left off. This worked in >>>> previous iOS versions, but it doesn't work now, you're returned to near >>>> the top of the list. If you're in a large news-related podcast where >>>> there >>>> are dozens of episodes, it takes a lot of effort to get back to your >>>> place. This also impacts a number of other apps including some Twitter >>>> clients. >>>> 5. Less reliable audio ducking. You may find that if you use VoiceOver >>>> while listening to audio from another app, audio ducking does not work >>>> as >>>> well as it used to. Some times, it works perfectly, while at others, >>>> VoiceOver ducks the audio but does not restore the app to its normal >>>> level >>>> when VO has finished speaking. On other occasions, VoiceOver won't duck >>>> the audio at all, as if audio ducking had been disabled. If VoiceOver >>>> has >>>> not restored system audio to its usual level, sometimes toggling speech >>>> off and on again with a three-finger double-tap will help. 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