Hi, The setting of the Siri voices for VoiceOver was mentioned on AppleVis; however, it was also indicated that the responsiveness is quite sluggish while navigating. Have you noticed this?
On 9/16/15, John Diakogeorgiou <[email protected]> wrote: > I've been using a VaroUltra and it works fine. Also one thing which no > one has mentioned is that you can now use the Siri male and female > voices for voice over. Just know that the male voice pronounces some > vowels strangely. > > On 9/16/15, Jonathan Mosen <[email protected]> wrote: >> Hi Neal. My understanding is that if you are affected, it will also >> happen >> if you have your phone on silent. If you just have your phone unmuted and >> on >> speaker, it appears to be OK as far as I know. >> Jonathan Mosen >> Mosen Consulting >> Blindness technology eBooks, tutorials and training >> http://Mosen.org >> >>> On 17/09/2015, at 9:38 AM, Neal Ewers <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>> Jonathan. Is this phone problem a problem only when using something >>> connected to the phone such as ear buds or a bluetooth device? Or, does >>> it >>> also effect phone calls if you are using none of these devices and only >>> using the microphone and speaker in the phone? >>> >>> Thanks. >>> >>> Neal >>> >>> >>> From: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> >>> [mailto:[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>] On >>> Behalf Of Jonathan Mosen >>> Sent: Wednesday, September 16, 2015 12:15 PM >>> To: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> >>> Subject: My top iOS 9 Bugs >>> >>> Hi everyone, now that the NDA is lifted, here are some things I think >>> you >>> might like to be aware of in iOS 9. >>> I am enthusiastic about iOS 9. It is significantly more responsive than >>> its predecessor, and there are many new features that I'm sure you'll >>> enjoy. Unfortunately, there are also some VoiceOver bugs in iOS 9 that >>> range from minor annoyances to potentially critical, depending on how >>> you >>> use your device and whether you find yourself affected. Here are just a >>> few that you might like to take into consideration before deciding >>> whether >>> to wait for a bug fix release before installing iOS 9. Remember that a >>> few >>> days following iOS 9's release, it will not be possible to downgrade >>> again, so you should consider the upgrade to iOS 9 a one-way trip, and >>> proceed with caution if anything below concerns you. >>> 1. Audio routing bug. This is potentially the most significant >>> accessibility bug I can recall ever to slip through an iOS release, due >>> to >>> the number of people who may be affected. Not everyone will be, and at >>> present, even after extensive testing with a range of people owning >>> different devices, I have no information about why it affects some >>> users, >>> but not others. It is not device specific, for example it is happening >>> to >>> me on my iPhone 6 Plus, but I know iPhone 6 Plus users where the problem >>> isn't so severe. Nor does it seem to be affected by any setting. If >>> you're >>> lucky, it won't happen to you, but the only way I am aware of to >>> determine >>> this is to upgrade. >>> This bug may affect you when you have earbuds or headphones connected to >>> the headphone socket of your iPhone. The primary way the audio routing >>> bug >>> manifests itself is when you receive an incoming phone or FaceTime call. >>> You can usually hear if you're going to be affected by the bug because >>> your ring-tone will fade in and out, rather like the way VOiceOver >>> causes >>> system audio to fade in and out when audio ducking is enabled. At this >>> point, if you press the power button to silence the ringer and then >>> flick >>> through the screen, you will find that not only has VOiceOver become >>> unresponsive, but the entire phone has as well. >>> If you don't press the power button while the phone is ringing, but >>> instead opt to flick through the iPHone's screen to locate the Answer >>> button or review caller ID information, VoiceOver may not speak at all. >>> Finally, if you attempt to answer the incoming call with a two-finger >>> double-tap, you may not be able to, since VoiceOver has effectively >>> locked >>> up. >>> The bottom line is that if you have earbuds connected, you may not be >>> able >>> to answer a call. >>> Some people have also reported similar problems answering calls when >>> their >>> phone is set to silent. >>> If you rely on your phone for business or safety, this could be a deal >>> breaker in terms of upgrading at this point. >>> What makes this bug so fascinating is that not only is it completely >>> absent for some people, but of those who experience it, not all symptoms >>> are present for all users. For example, some people experience the >>> issues >>> I have described when they press the power button to mute the ringer, >>> but >>> not when the phone is ringing. Others can answer a call by pressing the >>> button on their EarPods, while others cannot. >>> If you upgrade and are affected by this, here are a few things to try. >>> (A) If you have the more moderate version of this bug, avoid pressing >>> the >>> power button when you receive an incoming call. >>> (B) Turning off audio ducking seems to help a little for some users. >>> (C) If you can't answer a call with a two-finger double-tap, try >>> pressing >>> the button on your EarPods or similar device if you have such a device >>> connected. >>> (D) If all else fails, you can disconnect any device from the headphone >>> jack, answer the call with a two-finger double-tap, then reconnect the >>> device to the headphone jack. >>> (E) Given the critical nature of this bug, if you've upgraded and now >>> find >>> yourself afflicted by it, enrol in the iOS beta program so you can >>> receive >>> early copies of any fixes Apple is working on. But keep in mind that >>> since >>> you will be running beta software, you may well be swapping one set of >>> bugs for another. >>> 2. Bluetooth keyboard support unreliable. Sometimes, users may input >>> double letters when typing. This is a bug that was introduced in the iOS >>> 8 >>> cycle, and can easily be worked around by toggling VoiceOver off and on. >>> However, a new bug now exists where at times, no text is entered into a >>> field at all when VO is active. Toggling VO doesn't help, nor does >>> switching the keyboard off and on. The only immediate remedy is to turn >>> Vo >>> off, and keep typing without it. If you turn VO back on again, the arrow >>> keys don't work when you're trying to navigate your text, and you can't >>> edit it. >>> 3. In the Today view of Notification Center, VO frequently restarts >>> itself >>> when flicking through your widgets, and sometimes the phone locks up >>> entirely. >>> 4. It's much less likely you can return to your previous position on >>> screen after taking an action. For example, flick through the list of >>> podcasts in Downcast. Find a podcast you wish to download. Double-tap, >>> and >>> a shortcut menu appears. Choose Download. You should then be able to tap >>> on the screen and return to the list where you left off. This worked in >>> previous iOS versions, but it doesn't work now, you're returned to near >>> the top of the list. If you're in a large news-related podcast where >>> there >>> are dozens of episodes, it takes a lot of effort to get back to your >>> place. This also impacts a number of other apps including some Twitter >>> clients. >>> 5. Less reliable audio ducking. You may find that if you use VoiceOver >>> while listening to audio from another app, audio ducking does not work >>> as >>> well as it used to. Some times, it works perfectly, while at others, >>> VoiceOver ducks the audio but does not restore the app to its normal >>> level >>> when VO has finished speaking. On other occasions, VoiceOver won't duck >>> the audio at all, as if audio ducking had been disabled. If VoiceOver >>> has >>> not restored system audio to its usual level, sometimes toggling speech >>> off and on again with a three-finger double-tap will help. 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