Hello, No, I thought a 3 finger triple tap while voice over is on. I have also thought that that was obvious, but it doesn't seem like it. Glad all is well, though.
----- Original Message ----- From: Mary Otten <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Date: Thursday, October 22, 2015 11:36 pm Subject: Re: Dead phone > > > Three finger triple tap with voiceover off? Not too necessary. When sighted > people use my phone, voiceover is always disabled for obvious reasons. I > thought that would be self understood, but perhaps not. Anyway, the phone is > done disabled gone. And I have a new phone. > Mary > > > Sent from my iPhone > > > On Oct 22, 2015, at 11:55 AM, Rajmund <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > Hello, > > Considering the sighted can't see anything, a 3 finger triple tap? > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D. <[email protected]> > > To: "'[email protected]'" <[email protected]> > > Date: Thursday, October 22, 2015 6:35 pm > > Subject: RE: Dead phone > > > >> > >> > >> I'm confused about your situation. But if the screen curtain is on and > >> somehow your voice over volume is zero, that scenario sounds to me like > >> your describing, possibly. > >> > >> Have you tried a 2-finger swipe up to get voice over working and then use > >> the volume up button? > >> > >> I suspect you've tried this and that communication is somewhere in this > >> thread, but just in case you haven't, I'm sending this on. > >> > >> Have you called Apple Accessibility? > >> > >> Keith. > >> > >> -----Original Message----- > >> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf > >> Of Mary Otten > >> Sent: Thursday, October 22, 2015 12:22 PM > >> To: [email protected] > >> Subject: Re: Dead phone > >> > >> Hi Sieghard, > >> > >> I suppose you might have seen a note I sent on Wayne's thread about his > >> experience. But in case not: when I say dead screen, I mean, dead. No > >> gestures work. Sighted husband sees nothing on screen with VO disabled. > >> And here you see I am entering data with my lightning connected keyboard. > >> In short, everything on this phone is working but the screen, which is > >> totally gone. > >> Mary > >> > >> Sent from my iPhone > >> > >>> On Oct 22, 2015, at 10:04 AM, Sieghard Weitzel <[email protected]> wrote: > >>> > >>> Hi Mary, > >>> > >>> I am sending this to you directly as well since it seems you may not have > >>> seen my earlier message. > >>> > >>> Have you tried my suggestion which was to see if typing style has been > >>> reset to the default which is standard typing. If this happens it may > >>> seem something is terribly wrong when you come to the passcode screen > >>> because you can touch the numbers, Voiceover will announce them, but > >>> nothing is typed because you are used to touch typing and would have to > >>> double tap or split tap the numbers in order to enter your passcode with > >>> standard typing. > >>> > >>> If your iPhone is being recognized by iTunes I also don't see why you > >>> would need to enter DFU/recovery mode. You could just connect it, do a > >>> backup and then do a restore. When it initially finishes the restore I > >>> suggest you set it up as a new phone to make sure everything works, you > >>> can always restore from your backup once you know everything is good. > >>> Sometimes things can go wrong on a phone and certain issues can be part > >>> of a backup so if everything is good when the phone is set up as a new > >>> phone and you run into issues again after rstoring from the backup then > >>> it's time to bit into the sour Apple so to speak and to just set up as a > >>> new phone and to redo everything from scratch, e.g. set up your email, > >>> download your apps, arrange them the way you want on the home screens and > >>> folders etc. It's a lot of work, but sometimes it can be worth it. > >>> > >>> When you say "the screen is dead" what exactly do you mean? Does not > >>> Voiceover read what apps are on the screen and can you not swipe around, > >>> open apps etc.? > >>> > >>> > >>> Regards, > >>> Sieghard > >>> > >>> -----Original Message----- > >>> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On > >>> Behalf Of Mary Otten > >>> Sent: Wednesday, October 21, 2015 4:24 PM > >>> To: [email protected] > >>> Subject: Dead phone > >>> > >>> Well folks, > >>> It looks like my phone is dead. I tried several times to get it to > >>> restart, but every time, I get to that screen where it wants my passcode, > >>> because I have touch ID to unlock the phone. And I can't enter a > >>> passcode, because none of my gestures are seen, and voice over doesn't > >>> speak. It's like the screen is dead, although the phone talks and the > >>> buttons work. I have a friend who had something similar happen, and he > >>> has a 5S. In his case, after nothing was working, voiceover wasn't > >>> talking, screen seemed dead etc, he did the force restart. After that, > >>> voiceover came back. But for me, no such luck. I wonder how common this > >>> is. The folks at the store just said it's a dead phone. But I wonder. Is > >>> it some kind of weird interaction between iOS nine and VoiceOver? Has > >>> anybody heard of this happening to others, with or without voiceover? And > >>> while I'm at it, why don't earth does Apple want your pass code once you > >>> restart your phone and want to use touch ID? I mean, it's not like > >>> somebody can rip your finger off and use it and not have to know your > >>> passcode. It seems stupid. 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