Ah, I get it now. Now, here's where things get tricky for me. I'll be getting a new laptop soon, and installing iTunes on it. I am still running iOS 8 point whatever on my 4S. Will I be able to back up apps to my new computer using The latest version of iTunes and that iOS version on my 4S? I don't plan to stay with iOS ate, as I'll be getting a new iPhone 6S soon, and when I do, I'll use this new method of syncing apps to the computer once I get my iPhone 6S with iOS 9 on it, but for the initial sinking of app versions on my 4S that currently work with VoiceOver to the new computer, would this work? Sorry if I'm confusing you.
Thanks, Ari > On Nov 25, 2015, at 10:35 PM, M. Taylor <mk...@ucla.edu> wrote: > > Hello Ari, > > In your scenario, you are absolutely correct. However, if you invert the > scenario, you will discover that the reverse affect is also true; said > reversal being the following: > > 1. > You update to version 3.0 from version 2.9 on your iOS device. Now, because > you want to make certain that you have a backup copy of version 3.0, just in > case a future release breaks access, you update to version 3.0 on your > computer via the iTunes Update feature. > > 2. > Now, you update to v3.1 on your iOS device. Upon doing so, you discover that > VoiceOver access has been compromised. In this situation, you do not update > your copy on the computer which is v3.0. Instead, you delete v3.1 from your > iOS device and copy the older version from your computer back to the iOS > device. > > As you can see, from the steps above, , you only update apps on your computer > when you have confirmed that they work well on your iOS device. Keep in mind > that while you cannot copy an app from an iOS device to the computer, you > can, however, copy an app from the computer to the iOS device. > > Mark > > -----Original Message----- > From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of > englishride...@gmail.com > Sent: Wednesday, November 25, 2015 8:13 PM > To: viphone@googlegroups.com > Subject: Re: A Quick Tip for Those Experiencing Any App Updating Problems in > iTunes > > Wouldn't updating the app in iTunes just get you the inaccessible version, > though? I mean, say there's version 3.0 of an app on your iPhone that works > perfectly now, but the 3.1 update breaks it, and you heard about the > problems, so you haven't updated the app yet, and don't plan to until the > problems have been fixed. If you update the app in iTunes, won't you get the > inaccessible 3.1 version on your computer? > > > Thanks, > Ari > >> On Nov 25, 2015, at 4:31 PM, M. Taylor <mk...@ucla.edu> wrote: >> >> Ari, >> >> As of iOS 9.x, previously synchronized apps are no longer copied from an iOS >> device to iTunes on a computer during sync sessions. >> >> Therefore, if you have a VoiceOver accessible app on your iOS device, I >> strongly recommend that you update the app in iTunes, should any future >> updates break the iOS app. My suggestion presumes that you would want the >> most recent VoiceOver accessible version of an app stored on your computer. >> >> Mark >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On >> Behalf Of englishride...@gmail.com >> Sent: Wednesday, November 25, 2015 3:07 PM >> To: viphone@googlegroups.com >> Subject: Re: A Quick Tip for Those Experiencing Any App Updating >> Problems in iTunes >> >> Mark, I'm a little bit confused. What's going on with iTunes 12.whatever and >> iOS 9 and syncing apps from your phone to the computer? What happens if you >> update the app on your phone, then sync your phone to the computer, while >> also doing a transfer purchases? I don't update certain apps often, in case >> there are accessibility problems, so I like to keep a spare older copy in >> another place on my computer. I also like to have apps that I do update on a >> regular basis sync to the computer. Call me weird, but I don't like relying >> on iCloud backups, because when you use them, they just pulled the latest >> versions of apps from the app store. This is a problem if you have apps that >> are no longer in the app store. >> >> >> Thanks, >> Ari >> >>> On Nov 24, 2015, at 4:27 PM, M. Taylor <mk...@ucla.edu> wrote: >>> >>> Hello All, >>> >>> I am cross-posting this to both the Mac Visionaries and v iPhone >>> mailing list because I think the steps described below will apply to >>> both the Windows and Mac versions of iTunes. >>> >>> Today, in iTunes for Windows, I received a couple of download errors >>> when attempting to update a couple of apps. The errors, effectively >>> stated, that the download URLs were invalid. >>> >>> NOTE 1: >>> I use Jaws 16 for Windows on this particular PC. I make extensive >>> use of the Jaws Touch Cursor to interact with both iTunes and the iTunes >>> Store. >>> The computer in this scenario does not have an actual touch screen. >>> >>> Summary: >>> My solution was to cancel the download session, then right-mouse >>> click on each of the problem apps which displayed a list of options >>> including one to show the app in the App Store. Once there, I simply >>> clicked the download button for the app at which point it downloaded >>> properly. Upon checking for updates, again, the problem app was no longer >>> listed. >>> >>> NOTE 2: >>> The reason I update my apps via iTunes on a desktop is because, as of >>> iOS 9.x, updated apps are no longer automatically copied from the iOS >>> device to the computer during sync sessions. >>> >>> Steps: >>> The scenario in iTunes for Windows goes something like the following: >>> >>> 1. >>> Open iTunes and go to the Update apps section. A list/grid of all >>> the apps that have updates available should be displayed. If not, >>> then click the Check for Updates button. >>> >>> 2. >>> Select Update All. >>> >>> 3. >>> As the apps are successfully updated, they will be removed from the >>> list/grid. >>> >>> 4. >>> If there is an app that cannot be updated for various reasons, a >>> dialog box will be displayed with a cursory explanation as to why the >>> download failed. >>> At this point you can attempt to resume the download, at which point >>> it will be successful; if not, go to the next step. >>> >>> 5. >>> If any of the apps fail to download, iTunes will be placed into pause mode. >>> Your only option at this point will be to attempt to resume the >>> download at which point failure will occur again. The only way to >>> get out of this loop, at least, the only way I have discovered, is to close >>> iTunes. >>> >>> 6. >>> Re-open iTunes. You should immediately be returned to the most >>> recently viewed area of the application. In this scenario, the Apps update >>> area. >>> >>> 7. >>> At this point your update list/grid will only contain the apps that >>> have failed to update. Right-mouse click on each app. From the >>> resulting Shortcut list, select "Show in iTunes Store". >>> >>> 8. >>> Once the app is displayed in the iTunes Store, simply select the >>> Download button. 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