Hello Keith, This new syncing protocol is by design, according to Apple, in an effort to increase security and other reasons.
However, as a result of public backlash, such as when Apple removed the beloved Camera Roll, etc, Apple has been known to reverse itself, from time-to-time. Only time will tell. Mark -----Original Message----- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D. Sent: Thursday, November 26, 2015 8:15 AM To: 'viphone@googlegroups.com' Subject: RE: A Quick Tip for Those Experiencing Any App Updating Problems in iTunes Thanks again for this, Mark. Is it known whether this inability to synch app from the device to the pc will be the future as well as the present, or is it something Apple is working on to fix something it broke? Keith -----Original Message----- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of M. Taylor Sent: Thursday, November 26, 2015 12:36 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: A Quick Tip for Those Experiencing Any App Updating Problems in iTunes Hello Ari, In your scenario, you are absolutely correct. However, if you invert the scenario, you will discover that the reverse affect is also true; said reversal being the following: 1. You update to version 3.0 from version 2.9 on your iOS device. Now, because you want to make certain that you have a backup copy of version 3.0, just in case a future release breaks access, you update to version 3.0 on your computer via the iTunes Update feature. 2. Now, you update to v3.1 on your iOS device. Upon doing so, you discover that VoiceOver access has been compromised. In this situation, you do not update your copy on the computer which is v3.0. Instead, you delete v3.1 from your iOS device and copy the older version from your computer back to the iOS device. As you can see, from the steps above, , you only update apps on your computer when you have confirmed that they work well on your iOS device. Keep in mind that while you cannot copy an app from an iOS device to the computer, you can, however, copy an app from the computer to the iOS device. Mark -----Original Message----- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of englishride...@gmail.com Sent: Wednesday, November 25, 2015 8:13 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: A Quick Tip for Those Experiencing Any App Updating Problems in iTunes Wouldn't updating the app in iTunes just get you the inaccessible version, though? I mean, say there's version 3.0 of an app on your iPhone that works perfectly now, but the 3.1 update breaks it, and you heard about the problems, so you haven't updated the app yet, and don't plan to until the problems have been fixed. If you update the app in iTunes, won't you get the inaccessible 3.1 version on your computer? Thanks, Ari > On Nov 25, 2015, at 4:31 PM, M. Taylor <mk...@ucla.edu> wrote: > > Ari, > > As of iOS 9.x, previously synchronized apps are no longer copied from an iOS > device to iTunes on a computer during sync sessions. > > Therefore, if you have a VoiceOver accessible app on your iOS device, I > strongly recommend that you update the app in iTunes, should any future > updates break the iOS app. My suggestion presumes that you would want the > most recent VoiceOver accessible version of an app stored on your computer. > > Mark > > -----Original Message----- > From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On > Behalf Of englishride...@gmail.com > Sent: Wednesday, November 25, 2015 3:07 PM > To: viphone@googlegroups.com > Subject: Re: A Quick Tip for Those Experiencing Any App Updating > Problems in iTunes > > Mark, I'm a little bit confused. What's going on with iTunes 12.whatever and > iOS 9 and syncing apps from your phone to the computer? What happens if you > update the app on your phone, then sync your phone to the computer, while > also doing a transfer purchases? I don't update certain apps often, in case > there are accessibility problems, so I like to keep a spare older copy in > another place on my computer. I also like to have apps that I do update on a > regular basis sync to the computer. Call me weird, but I don't like relying > on iCloud backups, because when you use them, they just pulled the latest > versions of apps from the app store. This is a problem if you have apps that > are no longer in the app store. > > > Thanks, > Ari > >> On Nov 24, 2015, at 4:27 PM, M. Taylor <mk...@ucla.edu> wrote: >> >> Hello All, >> >> I am cross-posting this to both the Mac Visionaries and v iPhone >> mailing list because I think the steps described below will apply to >> both the Windows and Mac versions of iTunes. >> >> Today, in iTunes for Windows, I received a couple of download errors >> when attempting to update a couple of apps. The errors, effectively >> stated, that the download URLs were invalid. >> >> NOTE 1: >> I use Jaws 16 for Windows on this particular PC. I make extensive >> use of the Jaws Touch Cursor to interact with both iTunes and the iTunes >> Store. >> The computer in this scenario does not have an actual touch screen. >> >> Summary: >> My solution was to cancel the download session, then right-mouse >> click on each of the problem apps which displayed a list of options >> including one to show the app in the App Store. Once there, I simply >> clicked the download button for the app at which point it downloaded >> properly. Upon checking for updates, again, the problem app was no longer >> listed. >> >> NOTE 2: >> The reason I update my apps via iTunes on a desktop is because, as of >> iOS 9.x, updated apps are no longer automatically copied from the iOS >> device to the computer during sync sessions. >> >> Steps: >> The scenario in iTunes for Windows goes something like the following: >> >> 1. >> Open iTunes and go to the Update apps section. A list/grid of all >> the apps that have updates available should be displayed. If not, >> then click the Check for Updates button. >> >> 2. >> Select Update All. >> >> 3. >> As the apps are successfully updated, they will be removed from the >> list/grid. >> >> 4. >> If there is an app that cannot be updated for various reasons, a >> dialog box will be displayed with a cursory explanation as to why the >> download failed. >> At this point you can attempt to resume the download, at which point >> it will be successful; if not, go to the next step. >> >> 5. >> If any of the apps fail to download, iTunes will be placed into pause mode. >> Your only option at this point will be to attempt to resume the >> download at which point failure will occur again. The only way to >> get out of this loop, at least, the only way I have discovered, is to close >> iTunes. >> >> 6. >> Re-open iTunes. You should immediately be returned to the most >> recently viewed area of the application. In this scenario, the Apps update >> area. >> >> 7. >> At this point your update list/grid will only contain the apps that >> have failed to update. Right-mouse click on each app. From the >> resulting Shortcut list, select "Show in iTunes Store". >> >> 8. >> Once the app is displayed in the iTunes Store, simply select the >> Download button. Upon successful download, the app will no longer >> appear in the Apps Update area of iTunes. >> >> Good Luck, >> >> Mark >> >> >> -- >> The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. >> >> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if >> you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or >> moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. >> >> Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor and your owner is Cara >> Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com >> >> The archives for this list can be searched at: >> http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ >> --- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "VIPhone" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. >> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > > -- > The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. > > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if > you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or > moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. > > Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor and your owner is Cara > Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com > > The archives for this list can be searched at: > http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "VIPhone" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > > -- > The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. > > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if > you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or > moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. > > Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor and your owner is Cara > Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com > > The archives for this list can be searched at: > http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "VIPhone" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. 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