The way I understood things, and accessible PDF is an accessible PDF, no matter what you use to read it. As for the app being in aggregator for all types of different content in PDF format, that's a whole other can of worms entirely.
Thanks, Ari > On Feb 21, 2016, at 8:46 PM, Mary Otten <motte...@gmail.com> wrote: > > The problem may well be more complicated than that. If this app is an > aggregator, that is it excepts all these PDFs from various producers, it > probably doesn't have control over what those producers put into their file, > that is how they construct their PDF. Also, adobes guidelines about > accessibility are all about windows. Max need not apply. Adobes > accessibility guidance is not flexible. And Apple is not flexible. And there > you go. > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On Feb 21, 2016, at 8:28 PM, englishride...@gmail.com wrote: >> >> There is absolutely no reason that either of these companies can't make >> accessible PDFs. Seeing as there are accessible PDFs out there, they can be >> made. A PDF does preserve formatting, that's the whole point of a PDF; it >> retains the formatting that the author put into it, regardless of the >> computer that it's viewed on. PDF is a perfectly fine format for these apps >> to you use to display their newspaper contents, it just needs to be an >> accessible PDF. And as we all know that accessible PDFs can be made, they >> really have no excuse. I believe Adobe provides guidance on making PDFs >> accessible to screen reader users. >> >> >> Thanks, >> Ari >> >>> On Feb 21, 2016, at 4:42 PM, Flor Lynch <florl...@iol.ie> wrote: >>> >>> My local (weekly) newspaper produces a PDF in its iOS app, but it can’t be >>> exported to Dropbox (or a similar organ) for transfer, as there’s no option >>> for that in it. I’d like to be able to try putting it through KNFBReader >>> OCR, but cannot, for that reason anyway. >>> >>> From: Scott Berry >>> Sent: Friday, February 19, 2016 6:14 PM >>> To: Vi Phone >>> Subject: Re: Unacceptable Response from Issuu Support Team Regarding >>> VoiceOver Accessibility >>> Christin et al, >>> >>> I really want to thank you for bringing this to our attention. Here is my >>> response. I am already upset with another company so this didn’t help but >>> I am one to speak my mind and here is what I had to say. >>> >>> Hello there, >>> >>> I understand that another one of your people from the blind community has >>> already wrote you. I think that you guys are very inconsiderate and I >>> would not review your app due to the fact that you don’t feel that >>> Voiceover support is important. Why should I feel that your app is >>> important to my daily needs. I don’t want any sales tactics I have heard >>> them all. I want the same support as anyone else would get. >>> Secondly, I am a developer on IOS platforms and there is no reason you >>> could not make an option to at least scan those with some great accuracy in >>> to an rtf document. I really feel your a lowsy company and never come >>> knocking on my door until you have made your app acessible to everyone. >>> >>> Scott Berry >>> >>> >>>> On Feb 19, 2016, at 8:31 AM, Christine Grassman <cgrassman1...@gmail.com> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>> Dear All: >>>> >>>> Issuu is an app which provides access to millions of magazines, >>>> newsletters, etc., on virtually any topic you can think of. My son, who >>>> is also a VoiceOver user, wanted to access his high school’s newspaper >>>> which is on the platform. However, it is in an image pdf. Furthermore, >>>> trying to get around the app is nightmarish, and it does not appear that >>>> any of the available resources is accessible. >>>> I wrote to their support center, and this is the response I received. My >>>> response to that unhelpful response is first, with the response in the >>>> middle, with my original message at the bottom. I think this is absolutely >>>> something which should be available to those who use screen readers. If >>>> others agree, I think we should bombard them with requests to make their >>>> platform accessible. >>>> Christine >>>> >>>> >>>>> Begin forwarded message: >>>>> >>>>> From: "Christine Grassman (issuu Support Team)" <feedb...@issuu.com> >>>>> Subject: Update from issuu Support Re: Poor VoiceOver accessibility >>>>> Date: February 19, 2016 at 10:16:27 AM EST >>>>> To: Christine Grassman <cgrassman1...@gmail.com> >>>>> Reply-To: issuu Support Team <feedb...@issuu.com> >>>>> >>>>> ## Please do not write below this line ## >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Christine Grassman >>>>> Feb 19, 16:16 >>>>> >>>>> With all due respect, there is no excuse for this. Apple makes available >>>>> to developers, free of charge, guidelines for making apps accessible. >>>>> There's absolutely no reason not to do this. >>>>> Christine >>>>> >>>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Angel (Help Center) >>>>> Feb 19, 11:51 >>>>> >>>>> Hi Christine, >>>>> >>>>> Unfortunately we don't have a way for those with visual impairments to >>>>> use screen reading technology or have a way to make our site accessible >>>>> at this time. We also haven't been informed of any plans >>>>> to add that functionality any time soon. I'm so very sorry about that. >>>>> >>>>> If we do introduce this functionality at any point, we will put up an >>>>> announcement on our blog (blog.issuu.com) and on our help center >>>>> (help.issuu.com), so please do keep checking these places for updates. >>>>> >>>>> Please don't hesitate to write back if you have any other questions, and >>>>> we'd be happy to assist you. >>>>> >>>>> Best regards, >>>>> Angel >>>>> >>>>> issuu is on iOS and Android. >>>>> >>>>> To learn more about issuu, please visit our Help Center. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Christine Grassman >>>>> Feb 15, 22:42 >>>>> >>>>> I am blind, as are my children. We use iPhones with VoiceOver >>>>> accessibility to access text. I am deeply disappointed that Issuu is not >>>>> voiceover accessible. Only some features are accessible, and one cannot >>>>> find and read magazines. In this day and age, this is unacceptable. >>>>> Information should be accessible to us just as to others. >>>>> There is no reason why the text of your millions of publications should >>>>> not be accessible using a screen reader. I hope that you will address >>>>> this as quickly as possible. >>>>> Christine Grassman >>>>> >>>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> This email is a service from Help Center. 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