Hi Harry,
Confirming that the sort order here is also stuck as you said. Interesting.
Mary


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> On Apr 2, 2016, at 10:19 AM, Harry Bell <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> Same here, Mary: only a few in No Folder and not increasing. In addition, 
> within No Folder the Sort Order is stuck on Add Date and refuses to change to 
> Title. Harry
> 
>> On 2 Apr 2016, at 18:11, Mary Otten <[email protected]> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Richard,
>> Yes, that is what it looks like to me, since my all items list has 994 items 
>> to be precise. My no folder has just 42 items. And that number has not gone 
>> up in several hours. So all items are there, they're just not in the right 
>> folders, and they don't exist.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Apr 2, 2016, at 10:05 AM, Richard Turner <[email protected]> 
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Yes, and Mary already looked at that.
>>> The feature is to select "no folder" which didn't help her since VDEr seems 
>>> to still think some books are in folders even those the folder structure is 
>>> not there.
>>> Or at least, that is what I understood her to say.
>>> 
>>> Richard
>>> 
>>> 
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf 
>>> Of [email protected]
>>> Sent: Saturday, April 2, 2016 9:51 AM
>>> To: [email protected]
>>> Subject: Re: Voice dream reader iCloud sync lost my folders
>>> 
>>> , Didn't you show s a feature in your little demo of version 4.0 that would 
>>> let you figure out which books you've moved into a folder and which ones 
>>> you haven't? I seem to remember something about that.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Thanks,
>>> Ari
>>> 
>>>> On Apr 2, 2016, at 8:39 AM, Richard Turner <[email protected]> 
>>>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> I sure wouldn't touch the folder structure until he knows he has the bug 
>>>> squashed.
>>>> 
>>>> As for treating books like iBooks does, have you suggested that to Winston?
>>>> 
>>>> You know, the search feature works really well to save you from having to 
>>>> go through that huge list to find a specific book.
>>>> 
>>>> Best of luck,
>>>> Richard
>>>> PS.  I'll keep my ears open for the cursing if this happens again.
>>>> 
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf 
>>>> Of Mary Otten
>>>> Sent: Saturday, April 2, 2016 8:29 AM
>>>> To: [email protected]
>>>> Subject: Re: Voice dream reader iCloud sync lost my folders
>>>> 
>>>> Thanks, richard, for the sympathy. Now I wonder if it is worth my time to 
>>>> re-create my folder structure until Winston has definitely found and fixed 
>>>> the bug. If you want to talk about cursing, if I redo this whole 
>>>> structure, and then lose it again when I sync up to iCloud, you are going 
>>>> to be able to hear me all the way up in Portland from here in Eugene when 
>>>> the cursing starts. The worst thing about this deal, aside from the loss 
>>>> itself, is that in order to re-create the folders, I'm going to have to go 
>>>> through each and every item in all items each time I want to move things 
>>>> into a folder. That is because when you move things into folders, they 
>>>> stay in all items, just like what happens with Amazon Kindle. I love how 
>>>> iBooks does it. Move that sucker out of books, and it's  really moved. So 
>>>> the next time you go through your big fat books list in order to move 
>>>> things into another folder, you do not have to see the  items you just 
>>>> moved previously.  I actually do see the merit of an all items folder. I 
>>>> just wish there were something equivalent to the iBooks "books" folder. 
>>>> After all, this is just a matter of index pointers. It's not like they are 
>>>> actually having several copies of each item.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>> 
>>>>> On Apr 2, 2016, at 8:13 AM, Richard Turner <[email protected]> 
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Mary,
>>>>> I think you showed great restraint in only using one, minor, expletive, 
>>>>> in your statement. I would be cussing up a blue streak, not on the list 
>>>>> of course.
>>>>> I cannot imagine the amount of work you lost with that many items.
>>>>> Richard
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Sent from my iPod 6
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Apr 2, 2016, at 7:58 AM, Mary Otten <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I also got a reply from Winston, stating that the structure is lost and 
>>>>>> cannot be brought back, but he is looking into the problem for a future 
>>>>>> update. Damn!
>>>>>> Mary
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On Apr 2, 2016, at 7:28 AM, Harry Bell <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Winston has replied to say he is looking into the problem...
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> On 2 Apr 2016, at 13:55, Mary Otten <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Just to make it clear, this problem happened after I did the iCloud 
>>>>>>>> sink. When I updated to version four, all of my folders were there, 
>>>>>>>> just as they should be. It's after I did  the iCloud sink that the 
>>>>>>>> structure went away.
>>>>>>>> Mary
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> On Apr 1, 2016, at 10:27 PM, Richard Turner 
>>>>>>>>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> I have not had that happen.
>>>>>>>>> I had folders in a particular order on my Touch and when I updated my 
>>>>>>>>> iPhone to version 4, the folders showed up there in the same order.
>>>>>>>>> Of course, I have about 1/10th of the material you have. So I don't 
>>>>>>>>> know if it is a space issue?
>>>>>>>>> How much memory do you have in iCloud?
>>>>>>>>> This sounds like a good question to send to Winston. You might want 
>>>>>>>>> to use the contact through settings in Voice Dream.
>>>>>>>>> Richard
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Sent from my iPod 6
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> On Apr 1, 2016, at 9:54 PM, Mary Otten <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> I just did the iCloud sink for my large iPad library in voice dream 
>>>>>>>>>> reader. Before doing the sink, I had checked to make sure that the 
>>>>>>>>>> updating of my library had gone without a hitch, including keeping 
>>>>>>>>>> the folder structure as it had previously been organized.
>>>>>>>>>> Things look just the way they should have. On concluding the iCloud 
>>>>>>>>>> sink however, while all of the items are there if the all items 
>>>>>>>>>> filter is selected, if I filter by folder, the only filter that 
>>>>>>>>>> shows up in the list is "no folder". In other words, my several 
>>>>>>>>>> folders seem to be gone. This is somewhat daunting, given a library 
>>>>>>>>>> of close to 1000 titles am I missing something here? I have double 
>>>>>>>>>> tap on the no folder, thinking that perhaps if I do that, it will 
>>>>>>>>>> bring up the list. No go. What am I missing? Has anyone else had 
>>>>>>>>>> their folder structure disappear?
>>>>>>>>>> Mary
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Sent from my iPad
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