Hi,

Thanks, Anna, the idea of selecting everything in All Items and moving it all 
into No Folder makes a lot of sense to me. Mary, I'm sure you're right, I'm 
afraid it's unlikely that you'll see any further changes to your No Folder if 
it's already been that way for several hours.

A slight correction to my earlier post: I have been sorting out my own library 
and I have noticed that there were in fact three items which were still not 
showing up in No Folder, so my statement that everything was there was not 
quite accurate - my apologies! I was able to track the missing items by 
filtering by My Sources.

Also, I can confirm that I can't change the sort order in No Folder, which is 
stuck on New Date. I wonder if people who did not lose their folder structure 
are able to change the sort order in No Folder?

I have looked at the Reader/Library folder in iCloud Drive on my PC. There 
seems to be a folder for each item, containing a metadata file as well as the 
actual file constituting the item. The folder names consist of strings of 
numbers, so you don't know what the item is until you open its folder, which I 
think would make editing rather tricky. Perhaps it works differently on the Mac.

Nicky


-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of 
Woody Anna Dresner
Sent: 02 April 2016 22:46
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: Voice dream reader iCloud sync lost my folders

Hi,

Would it make sense to move everything into No Folder, and then work from 
there? then at least the number of items would decrease.

I also wonder whether the folders coincide with folders in your iCloud drive. 
If you have a Mac, it might be easier to use it to move the books into folders 
than to do it on the phone.

Best,
Anna



> On Apr 2, 2016, at 12:04 PM, Mary Otten <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> Yes, I remember that as well. You were only supposed to have it open and one 
> device with iCloud sink happening. That was the case for me. My other device 
> wasn't even turned on at the time. I just went and checked my no folder items 
> again, and the number of those is still the same. It hasn't changed since 
> last night. So, I would think that nothing is happening.
> Mary
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Apr 2, 2016, at 10:01 AM, Nicola Sanders <[email protected]> 
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Mary,
>> 
>> No, I didn't leave Voice Dream in the foreground or keep my screen unlocked. 
>> In the What's New file I noticed a reference to the app being in the 
>> foreground during the sync process, but I understood it to mean that if VDR 
>> WAS in the foreground, it should only be on one device, in order to avoid 
>> conflicts.
>> 
>> Best,
>> 
>> Nicky
>> 
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf 
>> Of Mary Otten
>> Sent: 02 April 2016 18:50
>> To: [email protected]
>> Subject: Re: Voice dream reader iCloud sync lost my folders
>> 
>> Hi Nicky,
>> Thanks for the idea about waiting on the no folder filter. I guess it can't 
>> hurt. Did you leave the voice dream app in the foreground with the screen 
>> unlocked? I had locked my screen and not left the app in the foreground. I 
>> don't remember seeing anything in the what's new about having to do any of 
>> those things once the sink process started.
>> Mary
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Apr 2, 2016, at 9:42 AM, Nicola Sanders <[email protected]> 
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi all,
>>> 
>>> I haven't posted to this list in a very long time and so I lost my posting 
>>> privileges, but Mark has kindly sorted things out for me.
>>> 
>>> Mary, you have my sympathies too. I also lost my folder structure, but I'm 
>>> fortunate in that my library is much smaller than yours. I've made a start 
>>> on recreating my folders, and in my case it's turning out to be easier than 
>>> I expected: After the iCloud sync, at first not all my items were showing 
>>> up in the No Folder filter, but when I came back to it later, they were all 
>>> listed there. This meant that I could use the No Folder filter as my 
>>> starting point, and the list got shorter each time I selected a group of 
>>> items and moved them into a new folder. I believe you said that only a few 
>>> items showed up in your No Folder list, but it might be worth checking it 
>>> again, just in case it has rectified itself, as mine did.
>>> 
>>> Incidentally, I share your delight at getting your Ivona voices back, as I 
>>> also lost my Ivona voices when I installed a full backup from my iPhone 5s 
>>> onto my new 6S. I was finally able to sort it out a few weeks before the 
>>> update, but I had to back up the library and reinstall the app from scratch.
>>> 
>>> Good luck with the folders,
>>> 
>>> Nicky
>>> 
>>> 
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf 
>>> Of Mary Otten
>>> Sent: 02 April 2016 17:29
>>> To: [email protected]
>>> Subject: Re: Voice dream reader iCloud sync lost my folders
>>> 
>>> Thanks, richard, for the sympathy. Now I wonder if it is worth my time to 
>>> re-create my folder structure until Winston has definitely found and fixed 
>>> the bug. If you want to talk about cursing, if I redo this whole structure, 
>>> and then lose it again when I sync up to iCloud, you are going to be able 
>>> to hear me all the way up in Portland from here in Eugene when the cursing 
>>> starts. The worst thing about this deal, aside from the loss itself, is 
>>> that in order to re-create the folders, I'm going to have to go through 
>>> each and every item in all items each time I want to move things into a 
>>> folder. That is because when you move things into folders, they stay in all 
>>> items, just like what happens with Amazon Kindle. I love how iBooks does 
>>> it. Move that sucker out of books, and it's  really moved. So the next time 
>>> you go through your big fat books list in order to move things into another 
>>> folder, you do not have to see the  items you just moved previously.  I 
>>> actually do see the merit of an all items folder. I just wish there were 
>>> something equivalent to the iBooks "books" folder. After all, this is just 
>>> a matter of index pointers. It's not like they are actually having several 
>>> copies of each item.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
>>>> On Apr 2, 2016, at 8:13 AM, Richard Turner <[email protected]> 
>>>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Mary,
>>>> I think you showed great restraint in only using one, minor, expletive, in 
>>>> your statement. I would be cussing up a blue streak, not on the list of 
>>>> course.
>>>> I cannot imagine the amount of work you lost with that many items.
>>>> Richard
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Sent from my iPod 6
>>>> 
>>>>> On Apr 2, 2016, at 7:58 AM, Mary Otten <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> I also got a reply from Winston, stating that the structure is lost and 
>>>>> cannot be brought back, but he is looking into the problem for a future 
>>>>> update. Damn!
>>>>> Mary
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Apr 2, 2016, at 7:28 AM, Harry Bell <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Winston has replied to say he is looking into the problem...
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On 2 Apr 2016, at 13:55, Mary Otten <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Just to make it clear, this problem happened after I did the iCloud 
>>>>>>> sink. When I updated to version four, all of my folders were there, 
>>>>>>> just as they should be. It's after I did  the iCloud sink that the 
>>>>>>> structure went away.
>>>>>>> Mary
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> On Apr 1, 2016, at 10:27 PM, Richard Turner 
>>>>>>>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> I have not had that happen.
>>>>>>>> I had folders in a particular order on my Touch and when I updated my 
>>>>>>>> iPhone to version 4, the folders showed up there in the same order.
>>>>>>>> Of course, I have about 1/10th of the material you have. So I don't 
>>>>>>>> know if it is a space issue?
>>>>>>>> How much memory do you have in iCloud?
>>>>>>>> This sounds like a good question to send to Winston. You might want to 
>>>>>>>> use the contact through settings in Voice Dream.
>>>>>>>> Richard
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Sent from my iPod 6
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> On Apr 1, 2016, at 9:54 PM, Mary Otten <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> I just did the iCloud sink for my large iPad library in voice dream 
>>>>>>>>> reader. Before doing the sink, I had checked to make sure that the 
>>>>>>>>> updating of my library had gone without a hitch, including keeping 
>>>>>>>>> the folder structure as it had previously been organized.
>>>>>>>>> Things look just the way they should have. On concluding the iCloud 
>>>>>>>>> sink however, while all of the items are there if the all items 
>>>>>>>>> filter is selected, if I filter by folder, the only filter that shows 
>>>>>>>>> up in the list is "no folder". In other words, my several folders 
>>>>>>>>> seem to be gone. This is somewhat daunting, given a library of close 
>>>>>>>>> to 1000 titles am I missing something here? I have double tap on the 
>>>>>>>>> no folder, thinking that perhaps if I do that, it will bring up the 
>>>>>>>>> list. No go. What am I missing? Has anyone else had their folder 
>>>>>>>>> structure disappear?
>>>>>>>>> Mary
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Sent from my iPad
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