I don't know what it does, but Winston has a repair library option in there. Maybe you should ask him what that does before trying it? Richard
Sent from my iPod 6 > On Apr 2, 2016, at 4:48 PM, Mary Otten <motte...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > Well, my situation keeps going from bad to worse and then to really bad. It > started because I decided to look at my no folder list and see if there were > duplicates in there, which there were. There were several what's new files, > none of which is relevant except for the most recent. So I deleted those. > Then I found apparently two copies of the same book. So I tried to delete one > of them. Nothing happened. Both copies were still apparently there. So then I > went back to all items and, to my surprise and dismay, I discovered that the > only things left in my all items folder or the very same things that are in > the know folders folder. In other words, over 900 items just disappeared. > They were there before, even though they weren't in folders. I know that > because I opened a couple of them, thinking that perhaps they were phantom > labels. But the books to which the labels were attached had opened just fine > so I just looked in iCloud storage management in settings. And under voice > stream there are a couple of folders, one of which is library. And in there, > there are 990 lines, each of which has a cryptic number. Double tapping on > one of those opens a book interestingly enough. So clearly, I still have a > back up with all of my books. But that damned reader isn't seeing it. Now I > wonder if there's anyway to restore all this nice backed up material to the > actual reader. I am frankly tempted to turn off iCloud sync invoice dream, > and then see if there might be a way to restore what is backed up in iCloud. > There is no way on gods earth I will ever be able to re-create this library > if I can't get access to these 900 and some files that are backed up in > iCloud. > Mary > > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On Apr 2, 2016, at 4:00 PM, Nicola Sanders <nicola.sand...@telenet.be> wrote: >> >> Yes, I can change the sort order in the All Items list, and in the new >> folders that I have now created, but I can't change it in the No Folder list. >> >> Nicky >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf >> Of Mary Otten >> Sent: 02 April 2016 23:53 >> To: viphone@googlegroups.com >> Subject: Re: Voice dream reader iCloud sync lost my folders >> >> Can you change the sort order and you're all items list? I cannot. And for >> those who did not lose their folder structure, can you change the sort order >> in you're all items list? >> Mary >> >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >>> On Apr 2, 2016, at 2:24 PM, Nicola Sanders <nicola.sand...@telenet.be> >>> wrote: >>> >>> Hi, >>> >>> Thanks, Anna, the idea of selecting everything in All Items and moving it >>> all into No Folder makes a lot of sense to me. Mary, I'm sure you're right, >>> I'm afraid it's unlikely that you'll see any further changes to your No >>> Folder if it's already been that way for several hours. >>> >>> A slight correction to my earlier post: I have been sorting out my own >>> library and I have noticed that there were in fact three items which were >>> still not showing up in No Folder, so my statement that everything was >>> there was not quite accurate - my apologies! I was able to track the >>> missing items by filtering by My Sources. >>> >>> Also, I can confirm that I can't change the sort order in No Folder, which >>> is stuck on New Date. I wonder if people who did not lose their folder >>> structure are able to change the sort order in No Folder? >>> >>> I have looked at the Reader/Library folder in iCloud Drive on my PC. There >>> seems to be a folder for each item, containing a metadata file as well as >>> the actual file constituting the item. The folder names consist of strings >>> of numbers, so you don't know what the item is until you open its folder, >>> which I think would make editing rather tricky. Perhaps it works >>> differently on the Mac. >>> >>> Nicky >>> >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf >>> Of Woody Anna Dresner >>> Sent: 02 April 2016 22:46 >>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com >>> Subject: Re: Voice dream reader iCloud sync lost my folders >>> >>> Hi, >>> >>> Would it make sense to move everything into No Folder, and then work from >>> there? then at least the number of items would decrease. >>> >>> I also wonder whether the folders coincide with folders in your iCloud >>> drive. If you have a Mac, it might be easier to use it to move the books >>> into folders than to do it on the phone. >>> >>> Best, >>> Anna >>> >>> >>> >>>> On Apr 2, 2016, at 12:04 PM, Mary Otten <motte...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>> >>>> Yes, I remember that as well. You were only supposed to have it open and >>>> one device with iCloud sink happening. That was the case for me. My other >>>> device wasn't even turned on at the time. I just went and checked my no >>>> folder items again, and the number of those is still the same. It hasn't >>>> changed since last night. So, I would think that nothing is happening. >>>> Mary >>>> >>>> >>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>> >>>>> On Apr 2, 2016, at 10:01 AM, Nicola Sanders <nicola.sand...@telenet.be> >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Hi Mary, >>>>> >>>>> No, I didn't leave Voice Dream in the foreground or keep my screen >>>>> unlocked. In the What's New file I noticed a reference to the app being >>>>> in the foreground during the sync process, but I understood it to mean >>>>> that if VDR WAS in the foreground, it should only be on one device, in >>>>> order to avoid conflicts. >>>>> >>>>> Best, >>>>> >>>>> Nicky >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On >>>>> Behalf Of Mary Otten >>>>> Sent: 02 April 2016 18:50 >>>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com >>>>> Subject: Re: Voice dream reader iCloud sync lost my folders >>>>> >>>>> Hi Nicky, >>>>> Thanks for the idea about waiting on the no folder filter. I guess it >>>>> can't hurt. Did you leave the voice dream app in the foreground with the >>>>> screen unlocked? I had locked my screen and not left the app in the >>>>> foreground. I don't remember seeing anything in the what's new about >>>>> having to do any of those things once the sink process started. >>>>> Mary >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>>> >>>>>> On Apr 2, 2016, at 9:42 AM, Nicola Sanders <nicola.sand...@telenet.be> >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> Hi all, >>>>>> >>>>>> I haven't posted to this list in a very long time and so I lost my >>>>>> posting privileges, but Mark has kindly sorted things out for me. >>>>>> >>>>>> Mary, you have my sympathies too. I also lost my folder structure, but >>>>>> I'm fortunate in that my library is much smaller than yours. I've made a >>>>>> start on recreating my folders, and in my case it's turning out to be >>>>>> easier than I expected: After the iCloud sync, at first not all my items >>>>>> were showing up in the No Folder filter, but when I came back to it >>>>>> later, they were all listed there. This meant that I could use the No >>>>>> Folder filter as my starting point, and the list got shorter each time I >>>>>> selected a group of items and moved them into a new folder. I believe >>>>>> you said that only a few items showed up in your No Folder list, but it >>>>>> might be worth checking it again, just in case it has rectified itself, >>>>>> as mine did. >>>>>> >>>>>> Incidentally, I share your delight at getting your Ivona voices back, as >>>>>> I also lost my Ivona voices when I installed a full backup from my >>>>>> iPhone 5s onto my new 6S. I was finally able to sort it out a few weeks >>>>>> before the update, but I had to back up the library and reinstall the >>>>>> app from scratch. >>>>>> >>>>>> Good luck with the folders, >>>>>> >>>>>> Nicky >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On >>>>>> Behalf Of Mary Otten >>>>>> Sent: 02 April 2016 17:29 >>>>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com >>>>>> Subject: Re: Voice dream reader iCloud sync lost my folders >>>>>> >>>>>> Thanks, richard, for the sympathy. Now I wonder if it is worth my time >>>>>> to re-create my folder structure until Winston has definitely found and >>>>>> fixed the bug. If you want to talk about cursing, if I redo this whole >>>>>> structure, and then lose it again when I sync up to iCloud, you are >>>>>> going to be able to hear me all the way up in Portland from here in >>>>>> Eugene when the cursing starts. The worst thing about this deal, aside >>>>>> from the loss itself, is that in order to re-create the folders, I'm >>>>>> going to have to go through each and every item in all items each time I >>>>>> want to move things into a folder. That is because when you move things >>>>>> into folders, they stay in all items, just like what happens with Amazon >>>>>> Kindle. I love how iBooks does it. Move that sucker out of books, and >>>>>> it's really moved. So the next time you go through your big fat books >>>>>> list in order to move things into another folder, you do not have to see >>>>>> the items you just moved previously. I actually do see the merit of an >>>>>> all items folder. I just wish there were something equivalent to the >>>>>> iBooks "books" folder. After all, this is just a matter of index >>>>>> pointers. It's not like they are actually having several copies of each >>>>>> item. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>>>> >>>>>>> On Apr 2, 2016, at 8:13 AM, Richard Turner >>>>>>> <richardturne...@outlook.com> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Mary, >>>>>>> I think you showed great restraint in only using one, minor, expletive, >>>>>>> in your statement. I would be cussing up a blue streak, not on the list >>>>>>> of course. >>>>>>> I cannot imagine the amount of work you lost with that many items. >>>>>>> Richard >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Sent from my iPod 6 >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Apr 2, 2016, at 7:58 AM, Mary Otten <motte...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I also got a reply from Winston, stating that the structure is lost >>>>>>>> and cannot be brought back, but he is looking into the problem for a >>>>>>>> future update. Damn! >>>>>>>> Mary >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Apr 2, 2016, at 7:28 AM, Harry Bell <ubupanora...@icloud.com> >>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Winston has replied to say he is looking into the problem... >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On 2 Apr 2016, at 13:55, Mary Otten <motte...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Just to make it clear, this problem happened after I did the iCloud >>>>>>>>>> sink. When I updated to version four, all of my folders were there, >>>>>>>>>> just as they should be. It's after I did the iCloud sink that the >>>>>>>>>> structure went away. >>>>>>>>>> Mary >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> On Apr 1, 2016, at 10:27 PM, Richard Turner >>>>>>>>>>> <richardturne...@outlook.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> I have not had that happen. >>>>>>>>>>> I had folders in a particular order on my Touch and when I updated >>>>>>>>>>> my iPhone to version 4, the folders showed up there in the same >>>>>>>>>>> order. >>>>>>>>>>> Of course, I have about 1/10th of the material you have. So I don't >>>>>>>>>>> know if it is a space issue? >>>>>>>>>>> How much memory do you have in iCloud? >>>>>>>>>>> This sounds like a good question to send to Winston. You might want >>>>>>>>>>> to use the contact through settings in Voice Dream. >>>>>>>>>>> Richard >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Sent from my iPod 6 >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> On Apr 1, 2016, at 9:54 PM, Mary Otten <motte...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> I just did the iCloud sink for my large iPad library in voice >>>>>>>>>>>> dream reader. Before doing the sink, I had checked to make sure >>>>>>>>>>>> that the updating of my library had gone without a hitch, >>>>>>>>>>>> including keeping the folder structure as it had previously been >>>>>>>>>>>> organized. >>>>>>>>>>>> Things look just the way they should have. On concluding the >>>>>>>>>>>> iCloud sink however, while all of the items are there if the all >>>>>>>>>>>> items filter is selected, if I filter by folder, the only filter >>>>>>>>>>>> that shows up in the list is "no folder". In other words, my >>>>>>>>>>>> several folders seem to be gone. This is somewhat daunting, given >>>>>>>>>>>> a library of close to 1000 titles am I missing something here? I >>>>>>>>>>>> have double tap on the no folder, thinking that perhaps if I do >>>>>>>>>>>> that, it will bring up the list. No go. What am I missing? 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